I gotta go with TMP and TSFS. 
Klingon Empire Bridge design: The Best?
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STIII. Becuase I think all the rest (like, every single appearence through TNG, DS9, ENT and the movies) are pretty much identical to/are minor redresses of the STIV bridge.
TMP, definitely.
About that bridge: Exactly where are those swiveling tactical consoles supposed to be? Are they at the most aft portion of the bridge, behind the helm/nav console (which in turn is behind the captain's chair)?
Without a doubt the one that made the biggest impression on me was TMP, which I thought was unbelievably cool (what we saw of it) and somewhat scary. So, I'm going with TMP.
Yes. They're in a "pit" at the back of the bridge.
Look at the far right edge of this picture and you'll see a railing...
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmp2/tmphd0046.jpg
...and that same railing is at screen left here:
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmp2/tmphd0046.jpg
^ same pic both times.
ST:TMP.
it didn't?
I really can't say I liked TMP Klingon bridge, since it was clearly just a rip-off of the Enterprise torpedo room.
Nah, just kidding. I know they built the Klingon bridge first and reused it for the torpedo room.
Seriously, TMP Klingon bridge was the best. I was rather dissapointed that they never used that same bridge again.
Nah, just kidding. I know they built the Klingon bridge first and reused it for the torpedo room.
Seriously, TMP Klingon bridge was the best. I was rather dissapointed that they never used that same bridge again.
Probably covered elsewhere, but I always wondered why the Klingon bridge looked different in TVH than TSFS. I figured it was part of what the crew did to fix up the ship, but I don't get why it would matter. Unless it's supposed to be ignored like the bridge of the Enterprise-A changing between TVH and TFF.
If the bridge redesign were the crew fixing up/rebuilding the ship (as some novels have claimed), then why are all the replacement consoles and displays still entirely in Klingon? And why would all other Klingon designs seen since mimic Kirk and co's design?
I think we're supposed to pretend it "always" looked the way it did in STIV.
I think we're supposed to pretend it "always" looked the way it did in STIV.
Odd, I don't remember there being a pit in front of the command chair containing a "communications screen". It's not like the commander was looking DOWN into it when he was reporting to his superiors (which Epsilon 9 intercepted). He looked like he was holding onto the back of his chair, actually - before he apparently sat down again in time to be bluesceened to death.
Anyway, this is a rarely discussed topic mostly beause most Klingon bridges look the same; I'm pretty sure the same set was in use from STIV until the seventh season of Voyager. The sets seen in various Enterprise episodes used elements of the STIV bridge set but on a smaller footprint, and also combined with other older sets like the Defiant bridge. Most notably the ENT set had no real steps or upper or lower areas to them, which is a giveaway that it's not the same set.
Regardless, count me in for the STIII set, which had a great feel to it. I loved the throne-ness of Kruge's chair placement, how he could easily communicate to everyone else in front of him, and even the incorporation of a gunner's swiveling chair from TMP behind him. I found the TMP set awkward because to talk to anyone the commander had to talk over his shoulder - not ALL Klingons are always shouting. Even in the STIV set onwards there were a couple people in front of the commander that were in direct earshot.
One credit though - in many iterations of the Klingon bridge the helm / nav console is actually BEHIND the commander's chair (and in TUC he even had a wheel!). I like the notion that the helmsman should have a good look outside at all times, but it's hardly necessary on a spaceship.
Mark
Anyway, this is a rarely discussed topic mostly beause most Klingon bridges look the same; I'm pretty sure the same set was in use from STIV until the seventh season of Voyager. The sets seen in various Enterprise episodes used elements of the STIV bridge set but on a smaller footprint, and also combined with other older sets like the Defiant bridge. Most notably the ENT set had no real steps or upper or lower areas to them, which is a giveaway that it's not the same set.
Regardless, count me in for the STIII set, which had a great feel to it. I loved the throne-ness of Kruge's chair placement, how he could easily communicate to everyone else in front of him, and even the incorporation of a gunner's swiveling chair from TMP behind him. I found the TMP set awkward because to talk to anyone the commander had to talk over his shoulder - not ALL Klingons are always shouting. Even in the STIV set onwards there were a couple people in front of the commander that were in direct earshot.
One credit though - in many iterations of the Klingon bridge the helm / nav console is actually BEHIND the commander's chair (and in TUC he even had a wheel!). I like the notion that the helmsman should have a good look outside at all times, but it's hardly necessary on a spaceship.
Mark
As for Kirk and crew redesigning the Bird of Prey's bridge, it seems most likely that Starfleet Intelligence would want to study a captured Klingon ship as intact as possible, so they probably wouldn't have changed anything.
Since every other Klingon bridge looked like the Trek 4 bridge, in my own silly little mind, I say that the Trek 3 bridge was an auxiliary bridge they were working from, but by Trek 4, Scotty got the main bridge up and running.
Since every other Klingon bridge looked like the Trek 4 bridge, in my own silly little mind, I say that the Trek 3 bridge was an auxiliary bridge they were working from, but by Trek 4, Scotty got the main bridge up and running.
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