Klingon and Romulan Pact

[Neutral Zone]

Instead of being at each others throats, imagine what a force they could have been if they had signed a pact with other.

For a start the Federation would have a big problem on their hands, Both of the enemy powers would have cloak capability, both single minded and aggresive (Klingons admittedly more so). The only power that would probably have stood any chance may have been the Borg.

 

[SFRabid]

Wasn't that the entire point of the the TNG episodes dealing with the sisters and their pact with the Romulans?

 

[sbk1234]

The Federation would have to do something like sneak aboard a Romulan vessel - which would likely be of a Klingon design - and steal the cloaking device. I bet the captain would have to act all paranoid and crazy, too, as part of an elaborate plan.

 

[Nerys Myk]

The Federation would have to do something like sneak aboard a Romulan vessel - which would likely be of a Klingon design - and steal the cloaking device. I bet the captain would have to act all paranoid and crazy, too, as part of an elaborate plan.

Never work, unless the First Officer could seduce the ship's commander.

 

[sbk1234]

SAY!!!!

 

[barnaclelapse]

It would certainly make for an interesting yearly company picnic.

 

[judge alba]

Instead of being at each others throats, imagine what a force they could have been if they had signed a pact with other.

For a start the Federation would have a big problem on their hands, Both of the enemy powers would have cloak capability, both single minded and aggresive (Klingons admittedly more so). The only power that would probably have stood any chance may have been the Borg.

i know it's not canon but the FASA combat game actually mentions about a technology exchange between the two powers one part being that the klingons got the clocking technology while the Romulans got thier hands on more advanced technology then ythey already had. though the exchanges never lasted long

 

[timothy1701]

I don't think the federation would stand much of a chance.

 

[Timo]

i know it's not canon but the FASA combat game actually mentions about a technology exchange between the two powers one part being that the klingons got the clocking technology while the Romulans got thier hands on more advanced technology then ythey already had. though the exchanges never lasted long

That was a good story as long as it lasted. But now ENT would suggest that both sides had cloaking tech long before the supposed TOS-era alliance. And DS9 made mention of a Klingon/Romulan battle in the early 2270s, suggesting that if there was an alliance, it was a strained one very soon after TOS already.

In TNG "Reunion", Riker and Worf ponder the possibility of a Klingon-Romulan pact, and neither of them quite declares that there has been one already in the past. They do think it would be a nasty thing, though. But the partial pact with Romulans and a faction of Klingons, promoted by Duras and his sisters and perhaps launched by Duras' father already, never comes to much.

Now, neither does the UFP-Klingon pact, to be sure. Not before the Dominion War at least. But one wonders if there ever was a UFP-Romulan pact. ST6:TUC really makes it look as if there indeed was one in the 2290s, perhaps as the result of the collapse of a preceding Klingon-Romulan arrangement...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[C.E. Evans]

I would like to think there was a period of detente between the Federation and the Romulans during the time of the TOS movies--not exactly friends, but not on the brink of war either--in which there was a Romulan embassy on Earth and maybe a Federation one on Romulus.

But I think the prospect of a Federation-Klingon treaty via the Khitomer Accords ended all that and steadily deteriorating relations eventually culiminated in the supposed Tomed Incident and the Romulans sealing off their side of the Neutral Zone for the next 50 years or so...

 

[Timo]

Quite so. But I'd like to go one step further, and take certain parts of ST6:TUC at face value. Such as the Romulan Ambassador being privy to secret UFP strategy meetings.

Until that movie, war between the UFP and the Klingon Empire had been on hold for decades, despite declarations such as "There shall be no peace as long as Kirk lives!". There was a balance of terror, where neither side thought a clean victory would be possible. What changed? Not merely the explosion of Praxis, which had no immediate effect on the warfighting capabilities of any of the sides. But if Romulus secretly promised military aid to the Feds, or at least promised not to aid the Klingons, then Starfleet for the first time might be sure of a chronometer-cleaning victory.

No doubt the Romulans would have promised the same thing to Chang to get the Klingons to fight, of course. Both sides would then have bludgeoned each other to death while carefully avoiding doing harm to the Romulans so that this third party would keep its important promises. And in the end, Romulus would win it all...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[NIUPonyBoy]

I don't think the federation would stand much of a chance.

Yet still be around after the Borg and Dominion?

 

[timothy1701]

I don't think the federation would stand much of a chance.

Yet still be around after the Borg and Dominion?

Yeah, but the borg never really went full scale. Just a few cubes into federation space. And the federation had the klingons and the romulans backing them up when they fought the dominion.

 

[DarKush]

The idea of UFP-Romulan pact would be cool. Perhaps the events of TUC and the Tomed Incident ripped it apart. A pact during the TOS movies would explain why the Romulan Ambassador was at that meeting, which always annoyed me, and maybe while the Romulans didn't menace Kirk and crew during the TOS era.

 

[Deks]

I don't think the federation would stand much of a chance.

Yet still be around after the Borg and Dominion?

Yeah, but the borg never really went full scale. Just a few cubes into federation space. And the federation had the klingons and the romulans backing them up when they fought the dominion.

The Dominion also had backup from the Cardassians and other minor races.
Why do people forget this?

 

[Timo]

Of such "other minor races", we only heard of the Breen. Various bit players were mentioned as having signed a non-aggression pact, which one could say worked to the advantage of the UFP as much as it did to the advantage of the Dominion.

One does wonder, though... Before the war, Cardassia had plenty of friends, allies and vassals in the vicinity of Bajor, such as Xepolites, Klaestron, Lissepians, and possibly also Yridians. Did these remain associated with Cardassia when Dukat took power, or did they switch?

Timo Saloniemi