Kirk on first name basis with (almost) every Commodore

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  1. ThatsMrCaptaintoyou

    ThatsMrCaptaintoyou Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    How is Kirk on a first name basis with nearly every Commodore seen in TOS all of them are clearly more seasoned and older but somehow this young Captain doesn't refer to them with any military courtesy save for Commodore Stone and Barstow.
     
  2. Phoenix219

    Phoenix219 Commodore Commodore

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    They were all Captains when he was a Commander, and all Commanders when he was a LT. He's familiar with them, they are the previous generation that mentored him.
     
  3. ThatsMrCaptaintoyou

    ThatsMrCaptaintoyou Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    So basically he should be calling them "Sir" or Commodore so and so and not be on a first name basis. An ensign should call a LTJG sir LTG should call a LT sir so on and so forth
     
  4. DonIago

    DonIago Vice Admiral Admiral

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    To be fair, how many commodores do we really see in TOS? It's possible they were commodores with whom Kirk regularly interacted and so they'd built a rapport.
     
  5. Jayson1

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    Kirk was so awesome even his superior officers were in awe of him and when they met him they told him you call us by our first names.
     
  6. Poltargyst

    Poltargyst Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Just like he always INSISTS that his subordinate friends call him "Captain" or "sir". I mean McCoy and Spock NEVER called Kirk by his first name.

    Kirk bends the rules with friends. Lighten up, Francis.
     
  7. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Cartoon Premium Member

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    You seem quite obsessed with "military courtesy". You don't seem to take into account that these men might be friends with personal connections and not walking rule books. Yeah he refers to Mendez and Wesley by their first names, but they also call him "Jim", not "Captain" or "Kirk". So it's clear the relationship is more than professional. In Decker's case, he's trying to reach a man who's in a state of shock.
     
  8. Shawnster

    Shawnster Commodore Commodore

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    Can you please cite examples?
     
  9. Tim Thomason

    Tim Thomason Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    That's Mr. Captain to you, sir. Get it right.
     
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  10. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    At the Commodore's Ball they all have a moan about that Captain from Iowa who thinks he's on a first-name basis with everyone.
     
  11. Tim Thomason

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    Kirk's a Starfleet brat. His dad might be a Commodore or something.
     
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  12. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Cartoon Premium Member

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    I wonder if he calls him "Dad"?
     
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  13. Joanna McCoy-Kirk

    Joanna McCoy-Kirk Commodore Commodore

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    Kirk's father is deceased, according to the Writer's Guide in The Making of Star Trek.
     
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  14. Tim Thomason

    Tim Thomason Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    He was alive when Kirk took command of the Enterprise, according to Spock Prime's memory in Star Trek '09.
     
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  15. Joanna McCoy-Kirk

    Joanna McCoy-Kirk Commodore Commodore

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    Well, evidently he must have died during Kirk's first 5-year mission, because by the 3rd season of TOS the Writer's Guide specified he was deceased.
     
  16. Phaser Two

    Phaser Two Commodore Premium Member

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    Shockingly, I've heard that in the United States military, subordinates sometimes call superior officers by their first names too.
     
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    1001001 Pull Up a Groove and Get Fabulous! Moderator

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    I heard they’re mostly cool guys, easy to talk to…

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  18. Phaser Two

    Phaser Two Commodore Premium Member

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    :lol: Didn't you break out Lionel during the last thread about commodores too?
     
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