If its a classic/vintage/restored 20th or 21st century sportscar...how is anything violated? An old, archaic car would likely still have old, archaic driving components unless replaced.
Kirk driving stick shift canon violation resolved.
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The Automatic Stick, yes -- a semi-automatic transmission and one example of quite a number.
I just hope to GOD that there's a REASON within the story for young Jim Kirk TO BE driving a Corvette--a reason beyond, "hell yeah, it'll make a kick-ass action sequence!!"
So far, I HATE that moment. It comes off as gratuitous and, yeah, a but of a canon violation--not to mention one must question WHY the young Kirk i purposefully trashing a relic that probably would be more suited to a museum in 200 years time.
So far, I HATE that moment. It comes off as gratuitous and, yeah, a but of a canon violation--not to mention one must question WHY the young Kirk i purposefully trashing a relic that probably would be more suited to a museum in 200 years time.
ed629
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Kirk's Corvette scene and continuity.
We see Kirk evading the robocop, power sliding the 'Vette and then drifting off the cliff.
Yet in "A Piece of the Action" (at least I think it was that episode), he can't drive the car he and Spock are in.
Did he totally forget how to drive?
I'm being sarcastic here.
We see Kirk evading the robocop, power sliding the 'Vette and then drifting off the cliff.
Yet in "A Piece of the Action" (at least I think it was that episode), he can't drive the car he and Spock are in.
Did he totally forget how to drive?
I'm being sarcastic here.
Re: Kirk's Corvette scene and continuity.
Tom Paris went back in time and taught him.
Tom Paris went back in time and taught him.
Re: Kirk's Corvette scene and continuity.
As I recall he knew that a 30's era model car had a starter as he found it and began to "operate" the vehicle. Said vehicle also was, for lack of any other evidence to the contrary, a genuine atomobile as opposed to what may be a model of a 20th century Corvette young J T Kirk drives over a cliff.
That said, I can also believe that the Iotian auto may have looked like a car we know but perhaps was different enough under the hood to cause our experienced starship captain a bit of trouble.
Either way, and I'm inclinded to believe the 'Vette wasn't really a 'Vette as a kid would get into a lot more trouble wrecking an actual 300 year old vintage Corvette than a model, I can see how Kirk wouldn't know how to drive the 30s jalopy over a Corvette as the former was some guy's auto that may have had a faulty clutch whereas Kirk was familiar with the Corvette whether real or a model.
As I recall he knew that a 30's era model car had a starter as he found it and began to "operate" the vehicle. Said vehicle also was, for lack of any other evidence to the contrary, a genuine atomobile as opposed to what may be a model of a 20th century Corvette young J T Kirk drives over a cliff.
That said, I can also believe that the Iotian auto may have looked like a car we know but perhaps was different enough under the hood to cause our experienced starship captain a bit of trouble.
Either way, and I'm inclinded to believe the 'Vette wasn't really a 'Vette as a kid would get into a lot more trouble wrecking an actual 300 year old vintage Corvette than a model, I can see how Kirk wouldn't know how to drive the 30s jalopy over a Corvette as the former was some guy's auto that may have had a faulty clutch whereas Kirk was familiar with the Corvette whether real or a model.
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Re: Kirk's Corvette scene and continuity.
I was going to post something about that here too.
It isn't just a simple problem of being a different style of car, it is even more basic than that.
In the movie trailer the young Kirk expertly downshifts and throws the car into a skid while moving a pretty good clip.
In "A Piece of the Action" grown up Kirk didn't even know what a clutch was!
I was going to post something about that here too.
It isn't just a simple problem of being a different style of car, it is even more basic than that.
In the movie trailer the young Kirk expertly downshifts and throws the car into a skid while moving a pretty good clip.
In "A Piece of the Action" grown up Kirk didn't even know what a clutch was!
Re: Kirk's Corvette scene and continuity.
Re: Kirk's Corvette scene and continuity.
Here's an easy way to reconcile this "apparent" continuity issue:
Young Jimmy Kirk's Corvette is a real Corvette made on Earth; Captain Kirk's automobile on Sigma Lotia II was made by "Sigma Lotians" based on a book about gangsters.
Kirk could be well-experinced with driving cars, but still have difficulty driving a reproduction of a car built by aliens who never saw a real Earth car.
I'm surprised the automobile in A Piece of the Action was made as accurately as it was, seeing that it was based on the very limited information the Sigma Lotians had regarding auto design.
Here's an easy way to reconcile this "apparent" continuity issue:
Young Jimmy Kirk's Corvette is a real Corvette made on Earth; Captain Kirk's automobile on Sigma Lotia II was made by "Sigma Lotians" based on a book about gangsters.
Kirk could be well-experinced with driving cars, but still have difficulty driving a reproduction of a car built by aliens who never saw a real Earth car.
I'm surprised the automobile in A Piece of the Action was made as accurately as it was, seeing that it was based on the very limited information the Sigma Lotians had regarding auto design.
Re: Kirk's Corvette scene and continuity.
ed629, since this one has been raised and discussed on more than one occasion before, why don't I just merge your thread with an earlier one in which a continuity-preserving explanation was offered?
Please hold onto the safety bar...
Pretty much.
ed629, since this one has been raised and discussed on more than one occasion before, why don't I just merge your thread with an earlier one in which a continuity-preserving explanation was offered?
Please hold onto the safety bar...
Re: Kirk's Corvette scene and continuity.
Once the Kelvin is destroyed by Nero, you're in a new continuity. There can be no continuity violations because Jim Kirk's life is completely different; He's grown up without the father he was supposed to have. He doesn't enter the academy as a teen, he has a different father figure in his life (one that either taught Jimmy to drive a stick, or otherwise caused him to do so), he probably never spent any time on Tarsus IV... It's a different timeline.
Dan
Once the Kelvin is destroyed by Nero, you're in a new continuity. There can be no continuity violations because Jim Kirk's life is completely different; He's grown up without the father he was supposed to have. He doesn't enter the academy as a teen, he has a different father figure in his life (one that either taught Jimmy to drive a stick, or otherwise caused him to do so), he probably never spent any time on Tarsus IV... It's a different timeline.
Dan