Spoilers Killjoys Season 2
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Had she done that, the people in Old Town wouldn't have cared. They were still in the euphoric bliss. Until the system was shut down, all there emotions were controlled from outside. You could tell them the truth all day and they wouldn't have cared. The combination of Pawter's message telling them to hate the wall and take it down, coupled with Pawter adjusting the machine to raise their emotions to hatred and anger, is what led to their taking action. Without Pawter's message, they would probably have taken their anger and hatred out on each other instead of the wall.
Had they all gotten rocks and thrown them at the wall, the results might have been the same only would have taken longer. Still, all that anger and hatred... blinded them to the fact their actions would cause their deaths until the wall was down.
I'm not talking about Old Town. Pawter said earlier that she was broadcasting Quad-wide, i.e. to all the people on Qresh and Leith as well as Westerley, so that everyone would see what was happening on Westerley. What I meant to suggest was that if she'd just kept that broadcast going while Delle Seyah confessed her evil plan to her, that would've publicly exposed Delle and she would've had to answer for her actions. Your classic open-mike scandal, basically.
Indeed, the fact that everyone systemwide was watching did become important later. When Delle Seyah arrived to (supposedly) negotiate for peace, she said it was because the systemwide broadcast of the Old Towners killing themselves to break through the wall had created such a scandal for the Company that it had to back down. What I'm suggesting is that broadcasting Delle Seyah's earlier confession could've achieved the same political result without the loss of life.
I thought this was a very impressive finale. Some excellent writing, complex character dynamics, big worldbuilding, epic mythology... this has turned into a hell of a strong show. They also went all-out with the special effects, and the "cargo containers in space" thing was a neat design, although some of the battle sequence was a bit too Death-Star-trenchy.
Nice to see Lost Girl's Rick Howland again, and his character was rather interesting -- very smart, formidable, controlled, and completely callous. The "administrator of the place our heroes have to break into" role could've been minor and simplistic, but they did much more with it. Also good to see Stephanie Leonidas again; her time here was way too brief, but it looks like she'll be a larger presence next season, and that's great.
Speaking of who might or might not be around next season, Delle Seyah was still breathing the last time we saw her...
It feels pretty consistent to me. Khlyen was always telling Dutch that he'd been training her for a reason, preparing her for something bigger. And Red 17 was first mentioned in episode 5, so they began seeding the mystery pretty early.
Looks like next season will begin to expand beyond the Quad and give us a look at the rest of The J. I think this is a rich universe they've built up, and I look forward to seeing more of it.
Nice to see Lost Girl's Rick Howland again, and his character was rather interesting -- very smart, formidable, controlled, and completely callous. The "administrator of the place our heroes have to break into" role could've been minor and simplistic, but they did much more with it. Also good to see Stephanie Leonidas again; her time here was way too brief, but it looks like she'll be a larger presence next season, and that's great.
Speaking of who might or might not be around next season, Delle Seyah was still breathing the last time we saw her...
It feels pretty consistent to me. Khlyen was always telling Dutch that he'd been training her for a reason, preparing her for something bigger. And Red 17 was first mentioned in episode 5, so they began seeding the mystery pretty early.
Looks like next season will begin to expand beyond the Quad and give us a look at the rest of The J. I think this is a rich universe they've built up, and I look forward to seeing more of it.
Wow, great finale.
I was a little confused about what exactly the relationship is between the pollen (or
was it hollen, I couldn't tell exactly what they were calling it) and it's hosts? Is it actually supposed to be that the stuff in the green is completely controlling the hosts, except Khylen and his people, or is it just enhancing them?
Either way, it turns out we were kind of right, and it is sort of aliens.
I was surprised it was apparently native to the Quad, I was expecting it to be something someone brought from outside of the system.
They actually managed to make me feel kind of bad Khylen died, I would not have expected that before the last few episodes.
So it looks like Dutch isn't a clone of Aneela. First Khylen didn't know why she looked like her, and then she apparently didn't have the same genes as Aneela. I had been assuming she was clone Khylen made to try to make up for what happened with Aneela. I wonder if we'll get an explanation, or if it'll just end up being purely a one in a trillion coincidence.
Hmm, Delle Seyah was still alive, and I think a gut shot like this could be survivable, so I wouldn't rule out seeing her again.
I really hope Fancy and Clara stick around, they're both good characters and would be fun full time additions to the team.
The Archive and Aneela's ship were both cool designs. I wonder if all of the green on Aneela's ship was the plasma, or they just went with green lights to stick to the theme.
I was a little confused about what exactly the relationship is between the pollen (or
was it hollen, I couldn't tell exactly what they were calling it) and it's hosts? Is it actually supposed to be that the stuff in the green is completely controlling the hosts, except Khylen and his people, or is it just enhancing them?
Either way, it turns out we were kind of right, and it is sort of aliens.
I was surprised it was apparently native to the Quad, I was expecting it to be something someone brought from outside of the system.
They actually managed to make me feel kind of bad Khylen died, I would not have expected that before the last few episodes.
So it looks like Dutch isn't a clone of Aneela. First Khylen didn't know why she looked like her, and then she apparently didn't have the same genes as Aneela. I had been assuming she was clone Khylen made to try to make up for what happened with Aneela. I wonder if we'll get an explanation, or if it'll just end up being purely a one in a trillion coincidence.
Hmm, Delle Seyah was still alive, and I think a gut shot like this could be survivable, so I wouldn't rule out seeing her again.
I really hope Fancy and Clara stick around, they're both good characters and would be fun full time additions to the team.
The Archive and Aneela's ship were both cool designs. I wonder if all of the green on Aneela's ship was the plasma, or they just went with green lights to stick to the theme.
It's Hullen, according to the Blastr review, and since they're Syfy-owned, I assume that's correct.
As I recall what Khlyen said, the Hullen are the microbial life forms in the plasma, and they strive to perfect whatever host they occupy. In its raw form, it provided enhancement and healing without mind control, which is why Khlyen and Aneela have free will. But Aneela altered it to control minds so she could enslave an army of Sixes and use them to conquer the galaxy.
It was originally from outside, but the Sixes/Aneela made a deal with the Nine when they founded the Quad: They would have 10 generations to breed a population that would then become hosts for the Hullen when the invasion came. The plasma was cultivated on Arkyn over the intervening time. Or so I understood it.
Yeah, that was surprising. I'd expected that when she entered her DNA into the Archive system, it would turn out the pattern was already on file.
I'd assumed the coloration was thematic, while viewing the episode, but that's an interesting idea. We don't know that much about the plasma, really. It "attempts to perfect the host," whatever exactly that means. Might be neat if Aneela's ship didn't just look like a giant tree, but it actually WAS a tree modified by the plasma and enhanced with other tech.
Then again, maybe I just want more giant tree-ships. Been reading too much Saga lately.
So Dark Matter starts three weeks before Killjoys. Oh, well. I guess that's because it has 13-episode seasons vs. 10. Which would imply that they aren't going to do the thing where they show the first or last two episodes of the season back-to-back.
OK I just finished these two seasons and I really loved the show.
Pawter was one of my favourite characters and she was great. Made me think of Doc Yewell in Defiance only with less sarcasm.
The wall around the town made me think of the wall they had around Defiance too. The guy in the biodome made me think of Pottinger.
Great show and I'm excited for S3
Pawter was one of my favourite characters and she was great. Made me think of Doc Yewell in Defiance only with less sarcasm.
The wall around the town made me think of the wall they had around Defiance too. The guy in the biodome made me think of Pottinger.
Great show and I'm excited for S3
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Also they have those balls that dart and bounce on command. Why couldn't enough of those be used to hammer the wall and bring it down by overloading it?