But given that this is a science-fiction space show, that's probably a safe bet.
Killjoys Season 1: Discussion and Spoilers
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But given that this is a science-fiction space show, that's probably a safe bet.
I had forgotten the exact wording. Thanks.
Yes, they can be set in the same universe centuries apart. Might as well be a separate universe for that matter. Maybe I'm just too narrow minded to see how that could make for a good narrative. It's not like giving us Enterprise as a prequel to 40 years of Star Trek. It's like giving us the first Foundation novel and the last Foundation sequel novel with no story in between.
Not saying it needs to make a narrative. Just maybe the occasional Easter egg reference for those who like worldbuilding and would appreciate the sense of interconnection. Let each show be itself, but against a common background that might occasionally enrich them in some way.
Well, probably not all of them. Presumably the human diaspora didn't just move wholesale from the Milky Way to the Quad, but spread outward in all directions, to many galaxies. And of course some families/corps would've fallen out of power and others would've arisen over the centuries. It'd be vanishingly improbable for all the influential corps in DM to be the direct ancestors of the Nine. One of them, possibly, but not a whole bunch of them. Continuity is one thing, small-universe syndrome another.
Ask a Southerner with a confederate flag on his truck.
Except that's not where they came from, it's (a latter-day and highly questionable representation of) where they currently are. Where they came from, in this sense, would be the country their ancestors came from. For instance, my Virginian mother's family came from Scotland. Although I never knew I had Scottish ancestry until I researched the matter last year. (Then again, I was still aware that Scotland existed.)
If "Supersoldiers" is the entire answer for what is happening on Arkyn, I will be disappointed, seems so... anti-climactic if that is the case.
I don't expect, but I am hoping, for aliens or anything, anything at all except superhumans, and that was what Johnny found in the DNA-strain.
I don't expect, but I am hoping, for aliens or anything, anything at all except superhumans, and that was what Johnny found in the DNA-strain.
It seems to me that the supersoldiers are a means to an end, not the end in themselves. Khlyen is apparently one of them, but he seems to have a specific mission, namely to deal with whatever it is that's "coming" to the Quad.
I dunno... Given the low budget of this show, any "aliens" we got would probably just be human-in-face-paint aliens like the really, really lame designs in Defiance. (You thought really pale people were impressive? Here, have some purple people!) Or if they did try for more exotic aliens, it'd probably turn out as badly as the really cheap-looking and clumsy alien makeups in Andromeda. In that context, I'd actually prefer them to stick with a human-only universe.
Hm. I'm trying to think -- how many space-based SFTV series have there been set in universes where humans have spread across space but never met aliens? There's Red Dwarf (where all the nonhuman species were genetic constructs created by humans, or descended from an Earthly species in the case of the Cat), Firefly (although that's borderline since humanity had only traveled to one system post-Earth), the Battlestar Galactica/Caprica universe (where "life here began out there" but humans and their Cylon creations were the only sophonts), and now Killjoys and Dark Matter, apparently. I would've thought there were more, but TV Tropes's index for the trope lists no other television examples, although there are surprisingly many prose examples.
Would you feel better if I told you that a famed asylum for deranged super-criminals is located on Arkyn?
Not to mention that it's been 7 generations since they left Qresh. The minimum must be more than 7 generations since Qresh was first colonized.
^Yeah, The Expanse looks like it has the same kind of asteroid belt/solar colonial focus as my novel Only Superhuman, not interstellar at all. That's the kind of universe where aliens may exist but humans just haven't found them yet. (Only Superhuman takes place in a universe where aliens do indeed exist, but before the first human contact with aliens.) It's different from something where humanity has established a major interstellar presence yet found no life or intelligence of non-Earthly origin.
There a lot of fun similarities between Killjoys and Dark Matter, but the difference is that one has a significant religious storyline and the other does not go there.
I found it pleasantly interesting that each show had a zombie-like episode where the female lead did a space walk without a suit and was sustained by nanos. Each show did the same situation but told a completely different story that was interesting in its own way. I liked that.
I found it pleasantly interesting that each show had a zombie-like episode where the female lead did a space walk without a suit and was sustained by nanos. Each show did the same situation but told a completely different story that was interesting in its own way. I liked that.
Renewed!
http://scifibulletin.com/2015/09/01/syfy-renews-dark-matter-and-killjoys/
Glad to hear it. I didn't expect much of Killjoys from the initial promos, but it's turned out to be the high point of Syfy's current lineup.
http://scifibulletin.com/2015/09/01/syfy-renews-dark-matter-and-killjoys/
Glad to hear it. I didn't expect much of Killjoys from the initial promos, but it's turned out to be the high point of Syfy's current lineup.
Same here. While 'Dark Matter' is entertaining, 'Killjoys' has been far more ambitious.
Plus Hannah John-Kamen could kick Melissa O'Neil's ass any day of the week. (Not bad for someone whose biggest previous job was the Spice Girls musical.)
My one plea for Season Two; no more brick spaceships!
