Killing Eve is Killing it!!
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Holy shit. I didn't expect that ending at all. 
I forgot to do a rewatch. Can someone remind me what happened to Niko by the end of the second season?
I forgot to do a rewatch. Can someone remind me what happened to Niko by the end of the second season?
This show is now openly winking at itself.
“Do you know what happens to people protected by MI6?”
“Do you know what happens to people protected by MI6?”
Holy shit. I didn't expect that ending at all.
I forgot to do a rewatch. Can someone remind me what happened to Niko by the end of the second season?
Villanelle killed his new girlfriend before his eyes and locked him in a storage unit with her body.
They really are. I loved that bit.
Oooooo, that's right! Thanks. Stupid memory.
This show has gotten a bit excessive with the redshirting of anyone but main characters.
Characters on this show besides Eve and Vilanelle are treated like all 24 characters not named Jack or Chloe.
Characters on this show besides Eve and Vilanelle are treated like all 24 characters not named Jack or Chloe.
Damn, Niko's death is even more devastating than Kenny's. Between the episode structure (I love episodes like that) and how Eve finally picked the healthier choice for her life (even if reconciliation with Niko was a long shot at best anyways). Now poor Eve is going to double down in her obsessive work and certainly won't believe Villanelle if and when she tells Eve that she didn't kill Niko.
That was a great episode. It was always tense looking for real emotional connection in her knowing she isn’t capable of it. But it gives insight that she was always the way she was but was looking for a way to blame it on her mother being that way.
She seemed almost convinced otherwise until her very young brother came to her about being called stupid. And her decision about who to spare reminds me of when she killed that deformed kid. Another case of “Murder as good deed” in her eyes.
She seemed almost convinced otherwise until her very young brother came to her about being called stupid. And her decision about who to spare reminds me of when she killed that deformed kid. Another case of “Murder as good deed” in her eyes.
Villanelle's family reunion ended in the only way I thought possible. I was happy at least that she saved her two blood brothers, neither of whom she knew well but clearly had affection for. Well, at least as much as she could possibly feel.
For a brief moment, I didn't think it would all end in murder but, as you said, Jirin, her younger brother confiding to her about their mother calling him stupid for even trying was the turning point. I feel bad for Pyotr because this whole time seemed like the happiest he ever felt, couch destroying aside (and honestly, that's a great anger management tool if you have couches to spare).
For a brief moment, I didn't think it would all end in murder but, as you said, Jirin, her younger brother confiding to her about their mother calling him stupid for even trying was the turning point. I feel bad for Pyotr because this whole time seemed like the happiest he ever felt, couch destroying aside (and honestly, that's a great anger management tool if you have couches to spare).
Well, I was wrong. Eve figured out almost immediately that Villanelle didn't pitchfork (I'm sorry, tried to kill) Niko but rather it was her new handler because of course Eve did (but at least her reasoning to that conclusion was logical and not simply because she figured it out).
What was surprising is Niko is still alive. Of course he's even more angry at her than ever before, not even giving her a chance to seek vengeance on his behalf or explain why she was there (but I imagine he's smart enough to figure out that she was duped into arriving at precisely that moment for exactly that reason). The question is why did the show keep him alive?
Meanwhile, Villanelle wants out and there's no clearer message to deliver than that obviously sloppy kill of the Romanian politician. As much as Konstantin predicts, I imagine that's not going to end well for her. But now he has bigger fish to fry: Irina is following in his footsteps (spurned on, now doubt, by Villanelle).
I love everything about this show but damn, Konstantin is possibly Kenny's father? I mean, it makes sense on all levels (including how Carolyn professes how she connected with Kenny in all the ways she could never connect with Geraldine) but along with everything involving Dasha, everything is becoming awfully small universe at this point. Which, I suppose, is the point?
What was surprising is Niko is still alive. Of course he's even more angry at her than ever before, not even giving her a chance to seek vengeance on his behalf or explain why she was there (but I imagine he's smart enough to figure out that she was duped into arriving at precisely that moment for exactly that reason). The question is why did the show keep him alive?
Meanwhile, Villanelle wants out and there's no clearer message to deliver than that obviously sloppy kill of the Romanian politician. As much as Konstantin predicts, I imagine that's not going to end well for her. But now he has bigger fish to fry: Irina is following in his footsteps (spurned on, now doubt, by Villanelle).
I love everything about this show but damn, Konstantin is possibly Kenny's father? I mean, it makes sense on all levels (including how Carolyn professes how she connected with Kenny in all the ways she could never connect with Geraldine) but along with everything involving Dasha, everything is becoming awfully small universe at this point. Which, I suppose, is the point?
You'd think all these assassins are competent enough not to leave a job unfinished. Niko might have been left alive to leave some collateral against Eve. It might be more advantageous to leave Eve scared than it is to have a vengeful Eve who if you kill you will have a vengeful Vilanelle.
We should also ask the question, why is Eve still alive, why are they only threatening her and attacking her family? I think they're afraid of Vilanelle if they kill her.
We should also ask the question, why is Eve still alive, why are they only threatening her and attacking her family? I think they're afraid of Vilanelle if they kill her.
The show is really starting to grate on my nerves. I feel like the scenes between Carolyn, Geraldine, and Konstantin are absolutely useless to the plot.
Niko is almost murdered and Eve seems to barely give any kind of fuck. It's obvious they don't have any idea what to do with his character but they've already killed most of the supporting cast already, so why it bother them to off Niko?
Season 1 was a masterpiece but now I feel like I'm watching a mediocre soap opera.
Niko is almost murdered and Eve seems to barely give any kind of fuck. It's obvious they don't have any idea what to do with his character but they've already killed most of the supporting cast already, so why it bother them to off Niko?
Season 1 was a masterpiece but now I feel like I'm watching a mediocre soap opera.
This fucking show. 
Lots of small universe coincidences but I don't care. Konstantin's "Am I stressed?!" laugh bleeding into Dasha's "We're in the same shit boat" laugh makes it worthwhile.
That said, Eve just crossed a line. She tried to kill Dasha by finishing Villanelle's and, while I don't blame her (especially after the Stalin mustache comment), that's a dark turn for her. Yeah, her relationship with Villanelle has been nine kinds of fucked up, this is different. Slowly pushing pressure onto someone's sternum with your foot is a very physical and personal action even in an of vengeance, but I don't know if Eve can come from that.
I know most people aren't liking Geraldine but I especially enjoyed her in this episode, pushing both Konstantin's and her own mother's buttons, to the point where Carolyn finally displayed some emotion beyond mild bewilderment. I knew she was going to say it but I loved how she followed up her violent outburst with "Is that the kind of thing you were after?"
Lots of small universe coincidences but I don't care. Konstantin's "Am I stressed?!" laugh bleeding into Dasha's "We're in the same shit boat" laugh makes it worthwhile.
That said, Eve just crossed a line. She tried to kill Dasha by finishing Villanelle's and, while I don't blame her (especially after the Stalin mustache comment), that's a dark turn for her. Yeah, her relationship with Villanelle has been nine kinds of fucked up, this is different. Slowly pushing pressure onto someone's sternum with your foot is a very physical and personal action even in an of vengeance, but I don't know if Eve can come from that.
I know most people aren't liking Geraldine but I especially enjoyed her in this episode, pushing both Konstantin's and her own mother's buttons, to the point where Carolyn finally displayed some emotion beyond mild bewilderment. I knew she was going to say it but I loved how she followed up her violent outburst with "Is that the kind of thing you were after?"
I just started with Killing Eve this season. Unfortunately, I find it a little more boring than I expected.
One question if anyone has any insight to this: If Dasha was supposed to "drive a wedge" between V and Eve (but not kill Eve), how would killing Niko accomplish this?
One question if anyone has any insight to this: If Dasha was supposed to "drive a wedge" between V and Eve (but not kill Eve), how would killing Niko accomplish this?
Well...you should've watched the first two seasons. This isn't the kind of show to jump in the middle. There's a whole complicated relationship between Eve and Niko...and Niko and Villanelle. It's better to watch those episodes instead of explaining.
Eh, dramatic license. I'm not too worried about that kind of thing if there isn't some kind of limited time element in play, which I don't think is the case here.
So things went all kinds of topsy-turvy. I'm not terribly surprised Kenny's death was ultimately an accident (assuming Konstantin is telling the truth). He didn't see important enough to be killed (despite his leads) and he was definitely not suicidal. The only thing I'm slightly surprised about is that his parentage wasn't brought up again, but I guess Carolyn wanted to keep at least that part private even when she was as harried as she was in that moment.
I loved the subway platform scene between Villanelle and her would-be replacement (I've already forgotten her name), knowing the scene would end the way it would, even if they didn't at the beginning. I especially loved the at the very beginning of the scene with Villanelle rocking back and forth on her heels in those ridiculous shows and her amazing outfit. So damn GIF worthy.
So now what? The Twelve only ever seemed secondary (at best) to the show's plot and the only leads they had are dead or tossed aside. Eve and Villanelle, no matter how much they both want to, they can't seem to walk away from each other. Neither of them wants their old jobs but they also have nothing else to do. So now what?
So things went all kinds of topsy-turvy. I'm not terribly surprised Kenny's death was ultimately an accident (assuming Konstantin is telling the truth). He didn't see important enough to be killed (despite his leads) and he was definitely not suicidal. The only thing I'm slightly surprised about is that his parentage wasn't brought up again, but I guess Carolyn wanted to keep at least that part private even when she was as harried as she was in that moment.
I loved the subway platform scene between Villanelle and her would-be replacement (I've already forgotten her name), knowing the scene would end the way it would, even if they didn't at the beginning. I especially loved the at the very beginning of the scene with Villanelle rocking back and forth on her heels in those ridiculous shows and her amazing outfit. So damn GIF worthy.
So now what? The Twelve only ever seemed secondary (at best) to the show's plot and the only leads they had are dead or tossed aside. Eve and Villanelle, no matter how much they both want to, they can't seem to walk away from each other. Neither of them wants their old jobs but they also have nothing else to do. So now what?
I wish I knew how to quit you, Villanelle.
This season hasn’t been as strong except for the homecoming episode. The way they devalue the life of anyone who isn’t a main character and suddenly made everyone okay with Villanelle’s mass murder history so long as she’s not trying to kill them or their friends at the moment.
They establish her as a sociopath early but her actions toward the end aren’t consistent with that diagnosis. Are they implying she does feel empathy and her history numbed it?
Was Kenny’s death stated to be an accident? I got the impression Constantin tried to save him by bringing him into the loop and the twelve sent someone else to kill him.
This season hasn’t been as strong except for the homecoming episode. The way they devalue the life of anyone who isn’t a main character and suddenly made everyone okay with Villanelle’s mass murder history so long as she’s not trying to kill them or their friends at the moment.
They establish her as a sociopath early but her actions toward the end aren’t consistent with that diagnosis. Are they implying she does feel empathy and her history numbed it?
Was Kenny’s death stated to be an accident? I got the impression Constantin tried to save him by bringing him into the loop and the twelve sent someone else to kill him.
