I suggested a possibility that I already knew wouldn't have occurred to most people because of their holy canon.
Khan’s starfleet jacket
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I've seen suggestions/speculations online that Meyer & Bennet's Trek aesthetic was meant to have "always looked that way" within its own continuity. It certainly stretches credibility to imagine TOS and the movies as literally being the same universe, just considering the visual differences. The movies are more like a loose "broad strokes" adaptation.
Kor
Kor
I see. So someone asks a harmless question about a jacket, and you become an anti-canon Nazi for…reasons. M’kay.
That is an absolutely great thought! I'm going with that one. I mean he had to smell a little ripe after all that time...
When Khan beamed aboard the Reliant, he shivered and said "It is very cold.... in here!". So he bundled up.
On edit: how many of you heard the James Horner Reliant riff right after reading that?
I’ve always been under the impression that between khan capturing Terrell and Chekhov and the first confrontation with the enterprise at least a few days had passed. This would give Terrell plenty of time to put on a new uniform.
Oh for crap's sake. I gave a harmless answer to what you pointed out was a harmless question. That's what happened.
Anybody at all, you included, would appear slightly indignant at being made to look foolish because someone ignored the whole meaning of his post (or just didn't read it). Or at suddenly and inexplicably having every post picked apart by someone positively predetermined to find something, anything, wrong with whatever he has to say for himself.
Back at YOU, sir. Don't be that guy.
Stands and bows presumptuously.
That's a very long-winded way to defend making a stupid joke and then complaining that nobody got it.
I never made nor attempted a joke, and my comment was not stupid. And anybody on here can go back over this thread to see for themselves, honestly, which of us is behaving trollishly. It most definitely isn't me.
That's not our decision to make. As far as I'm concerned, I've made my points and am moving on.
Khan got that jacket from Terrell's closet, and I'm sticking to it.
We do know, sort of. Khan captures Terrell and Chekov; action cuts to Kirk's departure for a while; and then we're at the Regula lab and Chekov tells Carol Marcus "Ve're en rroute to you and should be therre in thrree days".
He might be lying at Khan's behest, so the lab would expect visitors in three days but would get them in two hours. But what good would that lie do? There would still be time for a distress call.
Carol then indeed calls Jim, Jim orders course altered, and Sulu mutters "So much for a little training cruise". Next we see Khan prepare to intercept the Enterprise, having already tortured the scientists for the wherebouts of Genesis. The cut after Sulu's utterance thus supposedly is three days long!
This solves any complications possibly involved in Khan re-styling himself with (nicely fitting) maroon, and/or making Captain Terrell presentable again for further obfuscating action. It doesn't quite give us a chance to calculate distances, since even if Kirk flies at warp seven for three days straight, at least the last twelve hours apparently are to be traveled at impulse, the speed at which the subsequent intercept takes place without specified or implied speed changes... Possibly Khan had to travel at impulse on the last leg of his way in from Ceti Alpha, too. Frustrating, and a good time to invent some cruel games to pass the hours. Depriving the crew of their clothing might be related!
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ah! This makes sense.
He could be lying, but carol would be suspicious if it actually took half an hour from Ceti Alpha to Regula, wondering what the reliant was planning to do for the next three days.
A lot of the action is subject to script changes that might lead to awful contradictions, but it holds together pretty well. Khan has plenty of time to get familiar with the 2280s and its fashion; Kirk and the Marcuses have time to grow anxious but little opportunity to do anything else; and if Khan can jam the Regula transmissions from three days away, it's no wonder Kirk isn't getting any reinforcements (for what he considers a minor bureaucratic row anyway) and can't make inquiries with HQ.
Timo Saloniemi
Timo Saloniemi
I think he's got a point though. Some of the comics and certainly the novels treated the uniforms as retroactive continuity, and Khan's broken belt buckle implies that the movie may have been doing so as well. It wouldn't make sense, though, to imagine Khan beaming down to his exile with a Captain's jacket, or Marla having Captain's rank, so the only possible conclusion is that is Terrell's jacket.
Like you said, from his closet or somewhere else.
She did have a broken ST II-style metal insignia belt buckle that Khan already wears around his neck. My theory is that the design is from the Academy, a graduation memento that is now replicated as buckles.
But no, it's a spare captain's jacket from Terrell's room.
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