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Kes Knows Where You Sleep.

hux

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Good thread title huh?

So in the episode Twisted, Neelix behaves like a bona fide, possessive wife-beater and we can all agree that it wasn't very pretty to witness.

BUT... maybe he has a point.

Just how did Kes know where all those crew members quarters were? There is only one logical conclusion. Kes was a sex maniac and regularly visited numerous crew for some sloppy rumpy-pumpy. She used her delicious stink trifle to juice throbbing love puddings all over the crews face.

If you're ever in need of satisfaction, it would seem Hargrove is the man to see.

NEELIX: Kyoto's quarters. Nicoletti. Hargrove. Ayala.
KES: None of those are anywhere near my quarters.
NEELIX: This is deck eight. That's where your quarters are.
KES: But Hargrove and Ayala are on deck seven. Nicoletti is on four and I think Kyoto is on six.
NEELIX: How do you know where everyone's quarters are?
KES: I just remember.
NEELIX: Remember from what? Have you been in all their quarters?
KES: Of course not. The point is, those quarters can't all be on the same deck.
NEELIX: Well, see for yourself.
KES: This can't be.
NEELIX: Perhaps, sweeting, your memory isn't as reliable as you think.
KES: This is impossible. I know Hargrove is on seven.
NEELIX: Why Hargrove?
KES: What?
NEELIX: Why are you so sure about Hargrove's quarters? What makes him so special?
KES: He's not special. I just remember where his quarters are. This way. It has to be this way.
 
Good thread title huh?

So in the episode Twisted, Neelix behaves like a bona fide, possessive wife-beater and we can all agree that it wasn't very pretty to witness.

BUT... maybe he has a point.

Just how did Kes know where all those crew members quarters were? There is only one logical conclusion. Kes was a sex maniac and regularly visited numerous crew for some sloppy rumpy-pumpy. She used her delicious stink trifle to juice throbbing love puddings all over the crews face.

If you're ever in need of satisfaction, it would seem Hargrove is the man to see.

NEELIX: Kyoto's quarters. Nicoletti. Hargrove. Ayala.
KES: None of those are anywhere near my quarters.
NEELIX: This is deck eight. That's where your quarters are.
KES: But Hargrove and Ayala are on deck seven. Nicoletti is on four and I think Kyoto is on six.
NEELIX: How do you know where everyone's quarters are?
KES: I just remember.
NEELIX: Remember from what? Have you been in all their quarters?
KES: Of course not. The point is, those quarters can't all be on the same deck.
NEELIX: Well, see for yourself.
KES: This can't be.
NEELIX: Perhaps, sweeting, your memory isn't as reliable as you think.
KES: This is impossible. I know Hargrove is on seven.
NEELIX: Why Hargrove?
KES: What?
NEELIX: Why are you so sure about Hargrove's quarters? What makes him so special?
KES: He's not special. I just remember where his quarters are. This way. It has to be this way.

Heh.



To me she was a Mary Sue. Not that I think being a 'Mary Sue' is necessarily a 'bad' thing and for the most part I liked Kes but she always came across as a bit too...perfect for me. Don't get me wrong...I was sorry to see her go and thought they could have done more with the character.
 
Kes is only supposed #### once in her life.

Therefore if she has all the sex in the universe that she is physically capable of pushing through, then frankly, Kes is a bit of a slapper to reach her limit, and if magically somehow because a space clowd triggers her Elogium early and the naughty Nurse had had sex twice, Kes would have been worst sex deviant in the history of Ocampa.
 
If it had been made today as a Netflix Original it would go there and probably help ratings and give lein something to work with.
 
BS

Kes has photographic memory, that's all.

If she had been a sex maniac, she would never have been dumped by the "gods# after only three years
 
Every time hux starts a new thread I ask myself which Voyager character's sex life is under close scrutiny now....
 
Of course I'm serious. I bet she's in Baxter's quarters right now, ordering him to breathe in her Ocampan sex drippings. Seems patently obvious to me.

worst sex deviant in the history of Ocampa.

Exactly. A sex deviant. She's a wrong un.

Doesn't Neelix have a point? You don't just know where peoples quarters are... not unless you've been there. In fact, isn't it even more creepy that she would know where they all are without having been there? Is she stalking them?
 
This is a dull variation, but maybe those men were the closet perverts and she sees the best in everyone that she's blind to the signs she better sick neelix on them.
 
This is a dull variation, but maybe those men were the closet perverts and she sees the best in everyone that she's blind to the signs she better sick neelix on them.

It's perverted to want to have sex a reasonable amount of times a week, with a small number of people, in various locations that are non-threatening to the public?

Perversion is about having significantly more (or sometimes less) of "a random whatever" than the mean expectations of the group. The problem is that usually the bulk of group who are critically defining the mean are without pause always boring assholes.

If you had a choice, why would anyone want to be a boring asshole?

Hmmm.

Jennifer has little feet? Well she is tiny, so I assume that she has little feet. Point is that one of the Ocampan markers of mating season is puffy, swollen feet. What if Kes' feet were too tiny? So tiny that she was thought of to be exceptionally ugly by Ocampan standards of beauty and hotness. Her feet were so small that she could never find a husband, so Kes ran away to the outside world in minute shoes.

Ugly Duckling Manifest.
 
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I didn't say that. I was switching around the scenario and seeing it from neelix's POV. Naturally, I'd rather see her as a strong sexually secure independent woman. I'm just saying maybe there's a real threat vs casual mutual sex.


This is a dull variation, but maybe those men were the closet perverts and she sees the best in everyone that she's blind to the signs she better sick neelix on them.

It's perverted to want to have sex a reasonable amount of times a week, with a small number of people, in various locations that are non-threatening to the public?

Perversion is about having significantly more (or sometimes less) of "a random whatever" than the mean expectations of the group. The problem is that usually the bulk of group critically defining the mean are without pause always boring assholes.

If you had a choice, why would anyone want to be a boring asshole?

Hmmm.

Jennifer has little feet? Well she is tiny, so I assume that she has little feet. Point is that one of the Ocampan markers of mating season is puffy, swollen feet. What if Kes' feet were too tiny? So tiny that she was thought of to be exceptionally ugly by Ocampan standards of beauty and hotness. Her feet were so small that she could never find a husband, so Kes ran away to the outside world in minute shoes.

Ugly Duckling Manifest.
 
Well, if Chakotay didn't warn the Captain about the liberal murderers on Board, like Suder, then he certainly wouldn't have pointed out the habitual rapists.

Hmmm.

What about that poor shirtless firedancer dripping in musk?

Did he spend the next 6 years wondering if the reason B'Elanna lost his number, was because she thought that he was a bad kisser?
 
I could never wrap my head around the idea of Neelix and Kes being a couple. I honestly have no idea why the writers went there. The very idea of them mating turns my stomach. Aside from the fact Neelix behaves like her dad, Kes was only a year old when they began dating. Yuck!
 
My hypothesis is they (writers) wanted it alien to us. Bad pun intended. But didn't count on us being so repulsed and judging it by our social standards that we couldn't accept those particular subject of fiction.
 
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