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Poll Kelvin Star Trek 4 - Yea or Nay

Kelvin Star Trek 4 - Yay or Nay?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 78 68.4%

  • No way

    Votes: 24 21.1%

  • I can't decide

    Votes: 12 10.5%
  • Total voters
    114
AmbreP said:
Agreed, but someone needs to think creatively or the art and media markets could collapse regardless of the dangers of filming during a pandemic.

We are all going to be so bored and needing entertainment its a huge unrealized opportunity to think creatively and find ways to reach people for our collective mental health as well as the high opportunity of a mostly captive market. Unlike the last writers strike, that cost us a year of new entertainment media in most cases, this effects all levels of media production. Tha mrket is fractured with streaming and Broadcast media its of course an issue too.

I live in a rural area within a mile of a wifi tower, but I still cant stream most anything because data rates are unreasonably high and signal is unrelyable. There is only really one choice in my area, and I'm literally 1/2 mile or less from both a T3 and T3 fiberoptic connections. I have to live here for health reasons (environmental illness), and there is no national incentive to to try to include anyone much less everyone even within metro areas....so once outside its even more sparse coverage, so there are so many untapped markets that don't even know the possibilities.

So its going to take a visionary like the ones that opened up the home media markets (laser-disks, VHS,DVDs,etc...) to really push a new way of thinking. I could see someone bringing back a form of drive in so people could get a mass entertianment while still social distancing.

But I have no individual power or voice, so...
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Alirght, fair warning that this is going to sound extremely insensitive. It is not meant to be but if it comes across that way then apologies in advance.

First of all, I'm going to bet that you're not the only one to feel this way. So, you are an individual with a voice who can find other individuals with a voice.

Two, innovation costs money. And most media companies are terrified right now of losing money. So, yeah, that innovation is likely going to have to come from outside Hollywood. And someone willing to invest the capital.

Three, for my part, I honestly hope there is a small collapse of the media companies so that they can reorganize and innovate. Sorry, that sounds selfish, but I am not a person who is bored right now. Even if I wasn't working, I too live in a rural area and that place I own demands work and attention. Entertainment is low on my list of priorities right now.

Drive ins are coming back, at least in my area (and I heard that areas in New York state also are opening up drive ins).

Finally, it sounds like you have ideas. So maybe its time to go out and find people with similar ideas.
 
fireproof78 said:
Alirght, fair warning that this is going to sound extremely insensitive. It is not meant to be but if it comes across that way then apologies in advance.

First of all, I'm going to bet that you're not the only one to feel this way. So, you are an individual with a voice who can find other individuals with a voice.

Two, innovation costs money. And most media companies are terrified right now of losing money. So, yeah, that innovation is likely going to have to come from outside Hollywood. And someone willing to invest the capital.

Three, for my part, I honestly hope there is a small collapse of the media companies so that they can reorganize and innovate. Sorry, that sounds selfish, but I am not a person who is bored right now. Even if I wasn't working, I too live in a rural area and that place I own demands work and attention. Entertainment is low on my list of priorities right now.

Drive ins are coming back, at least in my area (and I heard that areas in New York state also are opening up drive ins).

Finally, it sounds like you have ideas. So maybe its time to go out and find people with similar ideas.
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I wish i could....I love media/tv production in college and was good at that level, but I cant physically take the stress due to my autoimmine disorders that even controlled I am supposed to avoid stress as much as possible. I also need to be as far away from metro life (and chemicals) to moderate my systems that there currently isn't real treatment for other than live in BFE to avoid life threatening autoimmune overreaction (environmental illness or multiple chemical sensitivities).

I have degrees in business admin and CGI graphics & animation.

It breaks my heart, and is VERY personally frustrating.

Thats why I like talking as places like this, maybe someone who can will start hearing about this and run with it the more I can get people discussing ideas, because online is sifted more and more for ideas. I would love someone to be able to do what I cannot for health reasons and rather teh ideas get out there to be heard.

Does that make sense to you?

Where I live now in AZ, my older sister was working admission at teh drive in (only one of 3 places to see movies in the county) and it was accidentally sent Star Wars first run (there was a huge lawsuit) in the 1970's and getting to watch from the projection booth with her current boyfriend was amazing. We have just limited ourselves....again....on what forms of media we will accept for no good reason.

I want the arts to succeed, and like the great depression, we are going to have to think/do different things so the artists dont all have to quit (and we all don't go crazy from boredom) in order to not starve! I think too many people are still in shock not really realizing the limitations science and medicine have, taking it all for granted and forgetting nature/evolution never stops, and not really thinking about the future yet.

As I happens I have nothing but time as isolated as I am. :)
 
I voted no, but it's very contingent.

I like the cast. I like the feel of of 2009. OTOH, Pegg has shown that either he doesn't know Trek like he thinks he does, or too much was removed from his control when writing. Either way, no behind the scenes roles for Pegg. I see nothing in Hawley's portfolio that leads me to believe that he could do justice to this project, but at the same time I'll be surprised if things go forward with him anyway. I think all the current info out there was just tossed out to generate/measure interest.
 
I'm more and more thinking that maybe they should just leave it well enough alone. The passing of one of their main cast, the fact that no one really knows what to do with the next film, the aging of the cast who was supposed to be the "young" versions of the characters, and the fact that Beyond ranks just above Nemesis as my least favorite Star Trek film, all make it difficult for me to imagine getting the same magical feeling I got watching 09 and Into Darkness (I loved both what can I say? :p ).
 
Admiral Archer said:
I'm more and more thinking that maybe they should just leave it well enough alone. The passing of one of their main cast, the fact that no one really knows what to do with the next film, the aging of the cast who was supposed to be the "young" versions of the characters, and the fact that Beyond ranks just above Nemesis as my least favorite Star Trek film, all make it difficult for me to imagine getting the same magical feeling I got watching 09 and Into Darkness (I loved both what can I say? :p ).
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I disagree. The cast is hardly ready to be put to bed and much of this could have been applied to the original movies.
 
ChallengerHK said:
He spent a lot of time telling us that STB was going back to Star Trek roots. I didn't see it.
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Going back to 'star trek roots' probably meant, for Pegg, 'more tos nods' and giving Mccoy more screentime to placate some fanboys - thus give the illusion they were restoring the original trio (which in reality std didn't do. And I could argue Mccoy got as much character development in this movie as he did in stid and st09 )
Frankly, if he thought that he isn't that different from many trek fans online who also think a movie goes back to 'star trek roots' if they get more nostalgia and dudebro stuff.
The question is whether all fans and nowadays audience share that vision and thus Beyond could be 'enough' for them. Doubtful.

I don't find his movie is more 'trek' than the first two. But then again, that depends of what is trek to you. For me all 3 have elements and beyond cannot win any special award in that regard.
 
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yeh Beyond felt like ok its the 50th lets make it more 60s TOS (meets Guardians) than the TOS movies meets TOS (as with 09/ID). But maybe the 50th should've been more '80s Trek movie' (as the 80s are so hot right now) with abit of all Trek sprinkled in (something like the Bring Back Kirk trailer but obviously not as fanboy crazy as that) ..thats what I was hoping for anyhow back in 2014/15
 
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Admiral Archer said:
I'm more and more thinking that maybe they should just leave it well enough alone. The passing of one of their main cast, the fact that no one really knows what to do with the next film, the aging of the cast who was supposed to be the "young" versions of the characters, and the fact that Beyond ranks just above Nemesis as my least favorite Star Trek film, all make it difficult for me to imagine getting the same magical feeling I got watching 09 and Into Darkness (I loved both what can I say? :p ).
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Do you believe general audience members could identify the difference between these ridiculous timeline identities (Prime and Kelvin)? Do you actually believe they care??? Do you think most Star Trek fans care???
 
STEPhon IT said:
Do you believe general audience members could identify the difference between these ridiculous timeline identities (Prime and Kelvin)? Do you actually believe they care??? Do you think most Star Trek fans care???
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Probably not the average person, though certainly the non-fans in my life with passing familiarity were able to discern the difference by the end of the first scene.
 
I just would love to be spared further interviews of Pegg making excuses and looking increasingly sick, drained, and sad. Give it a break and come back one day with a fresh bunch of folks who want to try something irresistible.
 
The Kelvin-Universe should be renamed the Kamikaze-universe.

They have already ruined the Kelvin universe by changing the Enterprise (just why would you do that) and the adding of way too much violence. They have a lot to improve for a new movie.
 
fireproof78 said:
The Wrath of Khan is worse for my money.


It's the same as changing the Enterprise in TMP. It doesn't ruin anything.
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But in the new Kelvin films the Enterprise interior just looks like shit. The old Enterprise was cosy and the kelvin version... not. I wouldn't go on a five year mission on the new kelvin Enterprise. Plus changing the Enterprise in the kelvin films was 'highly illogical'
 
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