Didn't Kirk say that a Kelvans would be too big to fit inside a turbo-lift?
That sounds like more than twice Worf's size.
We get ``immense beings with hundreds of tentacles'', which leaves plenty of room for interpretation.
Didn't Kirk say that a Kelvans would be too big to fit inside a turbo-lift?
That sounds like more than twice Worf's size.
In "Time's Orphan", Worf makes this reference to the Kelvans, first seen in the Original Series. However, the Kelvans were from the Andromeda Galaxy, which was dying from radiation. They sent out probe ships around the 1960s to nearby galaxies. And therein lies the problem. The Kelvans that Kirk met were from one multigenerational ship, who took 300 years to get to the Milky Way, and tried to hijack the Enterprise for another 300 year journey to report back for the eventual invasion. Therein lies the problem. It takes three centuries for Kelvans to get to the galaxy, DS9 is only one century later, and Kirk convinced/punched their leader into accepting peace. So how does Worf fight Kelvans?
We get ``immense beings with hundreds of tentacles'', which leaves plenty of room for interpretation.
If -now- is "modern", then wouldn't almost all of Trek be post-modern?The notion of DS9 as "post-modernist" is quite the giggle.
Strangely I picture Donald Trump
So does that mean there are tiny little hands at the ends of all those tentacles?
Worf actually said "Kelvins" in reference to his Kelvin Timeline self and other Klingons. Since everything in the Kelvin Timeline is bigger, Kelvin Worf is twice the size of Prime Worf, and the other Kelvin Klingons are of comparable size.In "Time's Orphan", Worf makes this reference to the Kelvans, first seen in the Original Series. However, the Kelvans were from the Andromeda Galaxy, which was dying from radiation. They sent out probe ships around the 1960s to nearby galaxies. And therein lies the problem. The Kelvans that Kirk met were from one multigenerational ship, who took 300 years to get to the Milky Way, and tried to hijack the Enterprise for another 300 year journey to report back for the eventual invasion. Therein lies the problem. It takes three centuries for Kelvans to get to the galaxy, DS9 is only one century later, and Kirk convinced/punched their leader into accepting peace. So how does Worf fight Kelvans?
I still don't see why he couldn't have met the descendants of the Kelvans we met in "By Any Other Name".Perhaps there was some long distance contact perhaps via substance with the Kelvan Empire afterwards "By Any other name."?
The Kelvans said it would 600 years to get back perhaps less given their modifications.I still don't see why he couldn't have met the descendants of the Kelvans we met in "By Any Other Name".
The Kelvans said it would 600 years to get back perhaps less given their modifications.
There is no on-screen evidence for any sort of contact between the andromeda and Milky Way galaxies in Trek. The novels and STO are the same in that regard.And we used to think we could get to the moon like this:
Technology changes with the time, and with it our perception of what we could achieve when.
Source?The novels establish that Rohan and his crew colonised New Kelva.
Star Trek: Starfleet Corps of Engineers: Foundations: Book III: http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Foundations,_Book_ThreeSource?
The Kelvans from "By Any Other Name" stayed in the Milky WayThe Kelvans said it would 600 years to get back perhaps less given their modifications.
Other than that sort of explanation there's no evidence that contact between the Milky Way and Andromeda.
The novels establish that Rohan and his crew colonised New Kelva.
No need to site the novels, it's right there in the episode.Source?
By Any Other Name said:ROJAN: But if we retain this form, where could we find a place?
MCCOY: Seems to me that little planet you were on is kind of nice.
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