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"Kelvans twice my size"?

Didn't Kirk say that a Kelvans would be too big to fit inside a turbo-lift?

That sounds like more than twice Worf's size.

We get ``immense beings with hundreds of tentacles'', which leaves plenty of room for interpretation.
 
In "Time's Orphan", Worf makes this reference to the Kelvans, first seen in the Original Series. However, the Kelvans were from the Andromeda Galaxy, which was dying from radiation. They sent out probe ships around the 1960s to nearby galaxies. And therein lies the problem. The Kelvans that Kirk met were from one multigenerational ship, who took 300 years to get to the Milky Way, and tried to hijack the Enterprise for another 300 year journey to report back for the eventual invasion. Therein lies the problem. It takes three centuries for Kelvans to get to the galaxy, DS9 is only one century later, and Kirk convinced/punched their leader into accepting peace. So how does Worf fight Kelvans?

The Kelvans sent a second wave of colony ships after they sent out the generational ship Rojan and his crew were born on.
 
In "Time's Orphan", Worf makes this reference to the Kelvans, first seen in the Original Series. However, the Kelvans were from the Andromeda Galaxy, which was dying from radiation. They sent out probe ships around the 1960s to nearby galaxies. And therein lies the problem. The Kelvans that Kirk met were from one multigenerational ship, who took 300 years to get to the Milky Way, and tried to hijack the Enterprise for another 300 year journey to report back for the eventual invasion. Therein lies the problem. It takes three centuries for Kelvans to get to the galaxy, DS9 is only one century later, and Kirk convinced/punched their leader into accepting peace. So how does Worf fight Kelvans?
Worf actually said "Kelvins" in reference to his Kelvin Timeline self and other Klingons. Since everything in the Kelvin Timeline is bigger, Kelvin Worf is twice the size of Prime Worf, and the other Kelvin Klingons are of comparable size.
 
Perhaps there was some long distance contact perhaps via substance with the Kelvan Empire afterwards "By Any other name."?
 
I still don't see why he couldn't have met the descendants of the Kelvans we met in "By Any Other Name".
The Kelvans said it would 600 years to get back perhaps less given their modifications.

Other than that sort of explanation there's no evidence that contact between the Milky Way and Andromeda.
 
The Kelvans said it would 600 years to get back perhaps less given their modifications.

And we used to think we could get to the moon like this:
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And we used to think we could get to the moon like this:
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There is no on-screen evidence for any sort of contact between the andromeda and Milky Way galaxies in Trek. The novels and STO are the same in that regard.
 
The Kelvans said it would 600 years to get back perhaps less given their modifications.

Other than that sort of explanation there's no evidence that contact between the Milky Way and Andromeda.
The Kelvans from "By Any Other Name" stayed in the Milky Way

The novels establish that Rohan and his crew colonised New Kelva.

No need to site the novels, it's right there in the episode.
By Any Other Name said:
ROJAN: But if we retain this form, where could we find a place?
MCCOY: Seems to me that little planet you were on is kind of nice.
 
The thing is, Kelvans had no shortage of self-confidence. Their galaxy was blowing up, Milky Way was their next-door neighbor, and they were prepared to conquer it for their use. Failure was not an option. Surely if it took generations for the scouts to cross, the invasion army would be in the next wave only a single generation behind at the very most, and the colonists in the wave after that...

There would be trillions of those unimaginable beasts pouring in during the 24th century, supposedly. Unless Rojan was allowed to send a message to them, dissuading them from coming. But I can't see what sort of a message would achieve that.

The question then goes (and no, this is not another comment on 21st century politics), would the Galactic Barrier help stop them? It supposedly killed most of Rojan's crew, but not the four we saw.

Timo Saloniemi
 
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