Keep three, boot three, ignore the other one. Only the main recurring cast counts. No other instructions. No complaints. 
keep/boot the new cast
- Thread starter Temis the Vorta
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Keep
Zachary Quinto as Spock
Zoe Saldana as Uhura
Anton Yelchin as Chekov
Boot
Karl Urban as Bones
Simon Pegg as Scotty
John Cho as Sulu
Neutral
Chris Pine as Kirk
Zachary Quinto as Spock
Zoe Saldana as Uhura
Anton Yelchin as Chekov
Boot
Karl Urban as Bones
Simon Pegg as Scotty
John Cho as Sulu
Neutral
Chris Pine as Kirk
umm, I think I'll wait to see 'em in action. Though based on Heros, I'll probably like Quinto.
I've been looking at video clips of the various actors on YouTube over the past couple of days, or watching them on TV in the case of Quinto on Heroes and Cho on last night's Ugly Betty. And I think almost all of them are good choices that I think can pull it off. Quinto, Pine, Saldana, and Yelchin are all good matches for the originals, though Quinto and Pine have rather different voices. Pegg and Cho don't look too much like their forebears, but I believe they have the capacity to pull off the characters well enough to be convincing (at least as convincing as Saavik changing from Alley to Curtis, and more so than the recasting of Cochrane for FC).
The one I'm not sure about is Urban. He's the right type physically, or close enough, but he's a rather... understated performer, and McCoy is an intense, expressive character. He'll really have to adapt his style to be convincing.
The one I'm not sure about is Urban. He's the right type physically, or close enough, but he's a rather... understated performer, and McCoy is an intense, expressive character. He'll really have to adapt his style to be convincing.
Keep: Quinto, Pegg, Yelchin
Boot: Pine, Cho, Saldana
Neutral: Urban
I'm probably more iffy on Pegg than Pine, but Pine's role is probably more important, and I've only seen Pine in one dramatic role -- 'Smokin Aces'. I have no reason to dislike Pine...it's that 'unknown factor' that has me a bit worried.
Pegg should be fine for Scotty if all Scotty has to do is talk into a computer mouse and bang his head on a pipe.
I've loved Yelchin since 'Hearts in Atlantis'. He's going to be a big Star someday real soon (probably after the release of 'Charlie Bartlett' next year). Cho and Saldana don't seem unreplaceable to me -- There are plenty of other Cho's and Saldana's out there.
Oh yeah...and Quinto IS Spock
Boot: Pine, Cho, Saldana
Neutral: Urban
I'm probably more iffy on Pegg than Pine, but Pine's role is probably more important, and I've only seen Pine in one dramatic role -- 'Smokin Aces'. I have no reason to dislike Pine...it's that 'unknown factor' that has me a bit worried.
Pegg should be fine for Scotty if all Scotty has to do is talk into a computer mouse and bang his head on a pipe.
I've loved Yelchin since 'Hearts in Atlantis'. He's going to be a big Star someday real soon (probably after the release of 'Charlie Bartlett' next year). Cho and Saldana don't seem unreplaceable to me -- There are plenty of other Cho's and Saldana's out there.
Oh yeah...and Quinto IS Spock
Sorry, I refuse to be so negative as to boot actors without even seeing them deliver a line.
Keep Saldana. I like her, no real reason, but I thought she was okay in The Terminal. Will make a fine Uhura.
Don't know much about the other actors... except Urban, and I don't see him fitting. I saw how Craig could be Bond before Casino Royale, I thought Christian Bale was a great actor (if an odd choice) before Batman Begins... but while Urban's good, he'd have to have a style I'm completely oblivious to to pull McCoy off. I hope I'm wrong, naturally.
From the clips I've seen, Cho's voice has too high a timbre. Sulu just needs to be an Asian guy with a deep, sensuous voice - is that so hard?
I know nothing of Pegg, except he makes those unfunny British comedies. Still, I think he'll probably be okay as Scotty, it's not that demanding a role - just charisma and a Scottish accent. I'm presuming he has the first and can fake the latter.
Oh, yeah, and everyone seems to love Quinto for some reason. Maybe if I watched Heroes I would to, but eh... he looks the role, and I don't know of anyone better. Keep.
I don't know Yelchin, but it's damn uncanny how similar to Walter Koenig he looks. He's the best match visually, IMHO, of the whole cast.
Fence-sitting on Pine.
Don't know much about the other actors... except Urban, and I don't see him fitting. I saw how Craig could be Bond before Casino Royale, I thought Christian Bale was a great actor (if an odd choice) before Batman Begins... but while Urban's good, he'd have to have a style I'm completely oblivious to to pull McCoy off. I hope I'm wrong, naturally.
From the clips I've seen, Cho's voice has too high a timbre. Sulu just needs to be an Asian guy with a deep, sensuous voice - is that so hard?
I know nothing of Pegg, except he makes those unfunny British comedies. Still, I think he'll probably be okay as Scotty, it's not that demanding a role - just charisma and a Scottish accent. I'm presuming he has the first and can fake the latter.
Oh, yeah, and everyone seems to love Quinto for some reason. Maybe if I watched Heroes I would to, but eh... he looks the role, and I don't know of anyone better. Keep.
I don't know Yelchin, but it's damn uncanny how similar to Walter Koenig he looks. He's the best match visually, IMHO, of the whole cast.
Fence-sitting on Pine.
I voted to keep Pegg, Cho and Quinto. Thats no disrespect to the others, I'm just not that familiar with their work and I'm pretty chuffed with the casting of those 3!
I'm with Therin, (and not because I love Andorians) but I also need to see them actually act in the film before we start playing Star Trek: Survivor and boot them out of the nearest torpedo tube. I'm keeping what's left of my mind open on this one. As long as Karl Urban can pull off a great Southern accent I think he'll be fine, I'm looking forward to his McCoy sparring with Quinto's Spock.
Keep Pegg. Boot Quinto.
I think this is an interesting social experiment. If we do this again in say, six months, are the results the same? Are most of us deciding to keep Quinto because it's had the most time to sink in?
Well what do we know.
I couldn't understand the choice of Daniel Craig for Bond and he turned out to be the best since, if not better than connery.
So Pegg as Scotty might be sublime. I just don't see it, but then I'm not making the film, I don't have to see it at this stage, just buy it when it comes out.
I kept the three main characters and also will not boot anyone without having seen them in action. Based on what I have seen, I think this movie is well cast. Chris Pine has mightly big shoes to fill, though. I really do wish him luck, but I'm not certain anyone can pull it off.
How come it seems like everyone here has a leg up on who these people are. I only know Quinto and wouldn't boot him. I don't know anyone else so I'll just wait and see.
I don't think so. I think it's because he's a good choice for the role. He looks strikingly like a young Leonard Nimoy, and his performances on Heroes suggest that he's good at the kind of nuanced performance and reserved intensity that Spock should have. Plus there's the fact that he's been strongly endorsed by Nimoy and has reportedly been hanging around with Nimoy extensively in kind of a master-apprentice relationship. So it feels as if he's not just playing Spock, he's inheriting Spock.
I find it amazingly obnoxious that, here in the USA, we keep pretending like all asians are interchangable. Apparently, "they all look alike to us?" Sulu's background was always intended to be Japanese... Takei is Japanese... and (and I've pointed this out before) there's a strong dislike for Koreans among Japanese and a strong dislike for Japanese among Koreans.
Go to Korea or Japan and ask someone about this, and you'll get the same response that you'd get if you did "roots" with a bunch of white men wearing black-face.
Pegg is the first real casting decision I've seen that I find deeply worrying, though. I get Cho... he's asian and the production staff are simply showing a bit of ignorance there... nothing intentional and thus nothing worrying about their philosophy.
See, Pegg is an entertaining actor... I've seen him in a lot of things and I've enjoyed his work... but he wasn't the best choice for the role. He has the one major advantage, however, of having worked with Abrams before.
That seems to be a trend. Abrams is building a project, not around who's necessarily the best choice for the role, but who Abrams knows and personally likes. Pegg has worked with Abrams before (MI-3). And I see his casting as an example of "I want to put my pal Simon into this flick because I like the guy."
As for Pine, I can see him in the role. Having finally heard a clip of his voice, I can HEAR him in the role. I'm in a minority, it seems, in thinking that Urban can carry off McCoy well. Quinto DEFINITELY looks the part more than any other actor I've seen or heard of (his voice is a bit jarring relative to Nimoy's though). The new Chekov is OK (but I wish they'd actually cast a Russian actor... as opposed to an American actor of Russian descent). Seldana looks the part, but I wish they'd cast an African actress... ah, well...
The only ones who particular bug me are Cho (ethnicity, not talent) and Pegg (just not a good fit).
Neither of those is going to ruin the film for me... but both indicate a mindset among the production crew that, if applied elsewhere, COULD ruin the film for everyone.
Go to Korea or Japan and ask someone about this, and you'll get the same response that you'd get if you did "roots" with a bunch of white men wearing black-face.
Pegg is the first real casting decision I've seen that I find deeply worrying, though. I get Cho... he's asian and the production staff are simply showing a bit of ignorance there... nothing intentional and thus nothing worrying about their philosophy.
See, Pegg is an entertaining actor... I've seen him in a lot of things and I've enjoyed his work... but he wasn't the best choice for the role. He has the one major advantage, however, of having worked with Abrams before.
That seems to be a trend. Abrams is building a project, not around who's necessarily the best choice for the role, but who Abrams knows and personally likes. Pegg has worked with Abrams before (MI-3). And I see his casting as an example of "I want to put my pal Simon into this flick because I like the guy."
As for Pine, I can see him in the role. Having finally heard a clip of his voice, I can HEAR him in the role. I'm in a minority, it seems, in thinking that Urban can carry off McCoy well. Quinto DEFINITELY looks the part more than any other actor I've seen or heard of (his voice is a bit jarring relative to Nimoy's though). The new Chekov is OK (but I wish they'd actually cast a Russian actor... as opposed to an American actor of Russian descent). Seldana looks the part, but I wish they'd cast an African actress... ah, well...
The only ones who particular bug me are Cho (ethnicity, not talent) and Pegg (just not a good fit).
Neither of those is going to ruin the film for me... but both indicate a mindset among the production crew that, if applied elsewhere, COULD ruin the film for everyone.
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