Keenser

[Christopher]

Fenarian (Bronze-scaled Enterprise Science Officer)
From a dry planet, where water is scarce and intense sunlight bakes the surface. Physiologically adapted to handle extreme temperatures and arid environments. Their society is a caste based one, with inhabitants being born into one of six (Builder, Merchant, Religious, Ruler, Scholar, Warrior).

Are you talking about "Madeline"? I read somewhere that the actress suggested her character was from a planet with four suns, so I considered that she might be from Delta Capricorni, aka Deneb Algedi. (Perhaps "Algedian," to avoid confusion with other Denebs.)

Not allowed story ideas here, sorry.

Species descriptions don't constitute story ideas. A story idea is a plot, a set of events.

IIRC, Christopher suggested that the Bug Eyed Nurse was, perhaps, a Cygnian (from TAS)

I passed along the suggestion at some point, but I don't think I originated it.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Species descriptions don't constitute story ideas. A story idea is a plot, a set of events.

I see what you're saying, but surely all the legal bothers surrounding story ideas would be applicable if a future novel visited Madeline's homewold and it was as Bry_Sinclair descibed?

 

[Therin of Andor]

I see what you're saying, but surely all the legal bothers surrounding story ideas would be applicable if a future novel visited Madeline's homewold and it was as Bry_Sinclair descibed?

If an author wanted to use Bry_Sinclair's fleeting description of a planet, they'd probably acknowledge him for the trivia fragment in the novel. But it's the brief description of a planet, hardly the plot of the whole novel, or even a chapter. He hasn't told us what happened on the planet, or to whom, or anything else that would happen in a novel featuring Madeline. (The caste proposal is similar to the TrekLit Tholians anyway.)

We had several debates on TrekBBS and PsiPhi, a few years ago, trying to map out something that would separate and define Deltans and Efrosians, and the novels currently use them the way we ascertained. Similarly, we had a discussion where I proposed making Sord (TAS) a Gnalish ("Stargazer"), and Michael Jan Friedman chimed in that he liked the suggestion, and that Sord would be a Fejjimaera Gnalish.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Cool. In that case, my apologies to Bry_Sinclair.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

IIRC, Christopher suggested that the Bug Eyed Nurse was, perhaps, a Cygnian (from TAS)

I'm not up on my TAS, it has been years since I last saw it. The idea for my species was the thought of a race that couldn't lie, and I thought the big eyes would likely hint at better vision, so I combined the two.

Are you talking about "Madeline"? I read somewhere that the actress suggested her character was from a planet with four suns, so I considered that she might be from Delta Capricorni, aka Deneb Algedi. (Perhaps "Algedian," to avoid confusion with other Denebs.)

It is "Madeline". I did see the thing about her planet having four suns and built on that. As for the caste system, it was something I liked from B5 and wondered how it might (or rather if it would) conflict with the UFP.

If an author wanted to use Bry_Sinclair's fleeting description of a planet, they'd probably acknowledge him for the trivia fragment in the novel. But it's the brief description of a planet, hardly the plot of the whole novel, or even a chapter. He hasn't told us what happened on the planet, or to whom, or anything else that would happen in a novel featuring Madeline. (The caste proposal is similar to the TrekLit Tholians anyway.)

My thoughts on these two races is for my own fanfic universe, as I have a couple of these aliens on ships (though only as extras, they have yet to be given any dialogue). I know that what I've created will most likely be over-written at some point in the future, but until then it's the way I see the species.

Same with how my "Girinite" are from a planet with higher than standard gravity, hence their short stature, which also gives them considerable physical strength. In the film Scotty says how he is satisfied with one bean, so I thought that they would go through momentary "binging" periods (every few weeks) when the consume large quantities of food, which sustains them (with the beans being something they injest in order to moderate the slow digestion of their last binge). But again, that's all in my head.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

Cool. In that case, my apologies to Bry_Sinclair.

No apologies needed, I didn't take offense.

Just thought I'd share some ideas, see if anyone else had given it any thought.