Congratulations, Kate. 
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Kate Mulgrew's Memoir "Born with Teeth".
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I've just finished reading the book. Its a shame there's not more about Star Trek in it! The other Trek autobiographis had some good behind the scenes information. I was also hoping it would go more ino her personal life whilst filming and her interactions with the crew and other cast members, how she felt when facing fans, the weird merchandise, Nemesis, teh series finalie, the hairdos etc. (I also wanted to hear more about how she had to re-write Mrs Collumbo scripts).
Its almost like this is Part 1.
SHame, as this is the first autobiography from any of the Trek actors since TNG aired.....
I know, her background is interesting and I do feel for her. However, lets face it, it'll mostly be Trek fans buying the book.
Its almost like this is Part 1.
SHame, as this is the first autobiography from any of the Trek actors since TNG aired.....
I know, her background is interesting and I do feel for her. However, lets face it, it'll mostly be Trek fans buying the book.
what actually happened between Mulgrew and Ryan during Voyager? I wasn't aware they hated each other. Although I did hear that Beltran and Mulgrew were at each other's throats by the end of the series. perhaps it indicates that Kate isn't the easiest of people to work with
surprised to hear that she was raped - does she say who was responsible? She joins the unfortunate club that includes Grace Lee Whitney and Nana Visitor (have I missed any out?)
surprised to hear that she was raped - does she say who was responsible? She joins the unfortunate club that includes Grace Lee Whitney and Nana Visitor (have I missed any out?)
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Because that kind of thing is a staple of memoirs and it sells books. For instance, the four original members of Kiss have made an art of bashing each other.
Mulgrew wanted Janeway to be a role model for women. She felt that Ryan was there for her looks. So there was bad blood throughout the series between them. IIRC they reconciled afterwards.
Mulgrew was angry because she thought Voyager was a progressive show when it came to portraying women in a non-sexualized way and here comes Ryan in a catsuit. Mulgrew wasn't really angry at Ryan, she was angry at the higher ups and Ryan just happened to be there and she took it out on her. It was misdirected anger.
The two women have made peace since then.
sounds like Mulgrew can be pretty sanctimonious and self-righteous.
I'd say 7/9 is a better role model for women than the batshit crazy Janeway who spend her career endangering the lives of her crew and making very emotionally-motivated decisions. The Janeway character actually helped to re-enforce the negative portrayal of women in command roles
One person's meat is another person's poison.
I've long viewed the Janeway character as one that enforces the positive portrayal of women in command roles.
After all is said and done, she did the impossible.
She got her crew home 68 years sooner than reasonably expected.
I've long viewed the Janeway character as one that enforces the positive portrayal of women in command roles.
After all is said and done, she did the impossible.
She got her crew home 68 years sooner than reasonably expected.
but only those crew she considered her family. All the other poor saps she got killed over the years due to her reckless decisions didn't matter and were left in the timeline of death
some role model
I could see the case for making Seven a role model as she was so smart (and didn't make decisions based on emotions but that's a whole nother discussion) but in the beginning she was a 'child' when it came to her understanding of human relationships and so forth. What I liked about her is she commanded respect and got it. I don't know what people said about her in the equivalent of a locker room on Voyager but on the job she was treated with respect. No jokes, no leering glances...no inappropriate behavior (except Ensign Kim in the beginning who was quickly put in his place). If anything the crew should be treated as role models. This is how you act ON THE JOB no matter how fascinating you find that woman (or man) who is also your co-worker.
Once more into the breach, eh?
If Admiral Janeway went back to Utopia Planetia to tell her younger self not to go into the badlands, she would have consigned her best friend, Tuvok, to being forever lost, not to mention a bunch of Maquis she'd never heard of before that mission.
Had she come back before the mission was even considered, to talk TPTB out of sending Tuvok undercover, then all the tech the Admiral brought with her that could defeat the BORG would be put to use defeating the Founders years earlier and that would have negated nearly the entire Deep Space Nine series
If she had gone back to the battle at the array to tell her younger self to NOT waste time saving Ocampa, to skeddle back to the Alpha Quadrant via the Caretaker's array before Kazon reinforcements arrived then not only would that world's inhabitants be at the mercy of the Kazon, she would have left Annika Hansen in the thrall of the BORG and the Borg kids on a dying cube, not to mention negating every other positive effect Voyager had on the Delta Quadrant.
Had the Admiral come back 4 weeks earlier than she actually did, maybe she would have been able to save Carey on that irradiated planet, but then "people" would complain that she didn't come back 6 ... 8... 10 weeks early and save someone else.
Plus, the Admiral knows her Captain, knows if she gives Janeway too much time to think, she would figure out how the older woman was trying to hoodwink her into hightailing it home instead of dealing with the BORG scourge once and for all.
Heck, giving the Captain just the few days she gave her put enough doubt in Captain Janeway's mind that she turned her ship around and left the nebulae instead of flying directly home.
Not only that, she would never have the opportunity to get her lower decks crewmen "shipshape".
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The Nana Visitor rape thing was something that a founding member of the Troll Kingdom lot started, IIRC.
But I was more surprised about the baby she gave up during her time on Ryan's Hope. Granted, such things were easier to hide in the 70s without social media, but she was fairly well known during this time. Wouldn't someone have remembered seeing a very pregnant Kate Mulgrew at some point or noticing that her pregnancy went on a bit longer than most soap pregnancies do?
Glad that she got to reunite with her daughter, though.
I never heard Visitor being raped per say. Her home was burgled and she was tied up. She had that traumatic experience alright.
Once more into the breach, eh?
If Admiral Janeway went back to Utopia Planetia to tell her younger self not to go into the badlands, she would have consigned her best friend, Tuvok, to being forever lost, not to mention a bunch of Maquis she'd never hear of before that mission.
Had she come back before the mission was even considered, to talk TPTB out of sending Tuvok undercover, then all the tech the Admiral brought with her that could defeat the BORG would be put to use defeating the Founders years earlier and that would have negated nearly the entire Deep Space Nine series
If she had gone back to the battle at the array to tell her younger self to NOT waste time saving Ocampa, to skeddle back to the Alpha Quadrant via the Caretaker's array before Kazon reinforcements arrived then not only would that world's inhabitants be at the mercy of the Kazon, she would have left Annika Hansen in the thrall of the BORG and the Borg kids on a dying cube, not to mention negating every other positive effect Voyager had on the Delta Quadrant.
Had the Admiral come back 4 weeks earlier than she actually did, maybe she would have been able to save Carey on that irradiated planet, but then "people" would complain that she didn't came back 6 ... 8... 10 weeks early and save someone else.
Plus, the Admiral knows her Captain, knows if she gives Janeway too much time to think, she would figure out how the older woman was trying to hoodwink her into hightailing it home instead of dealing with the BORG scourge once and for all.
Heck, giving the Captain just the few days she gave her put enough doubt in Captain Janeway's mind that she turned her ship around and left the nebulae instead of flying directly home.
Not only that, she would never have the opportunity to get her lower decks crewmen "shipshape".
Not to mention saving Tom Paris from his continuing downward spiral.
The book is really well written and I'm happy to see that her work was estimated in its just value. 
I trully hope a sequel soon.
I trully hope a sequel soon.
it's not an autobiography. It's a memoir. the format is different. which is why there were no 'trivial' matters mentioned. Like you, people wanted the scoop on her interpersonal relationships on board the set but those people(the other actors) are still alive. I doubt she wanted to reveal what she really felt. that's why she waited until her parents died before even diving into her past.
I can fill in some of the blanks. It's not as cool as coming from her but I will try:
I've observed she can be blunt but she also has an air of wanting to protect feelings. So it's been back and forth as to how much she engages in trivial talk like action figures etc. (don't ask her about fanfic she'll make a face. she knows about the naughty stuff and assumes you'll go there
)She loves the series finale because she had a huge hand in it. Her favorite part was all the split screen scenes and her scene opposite Tim Russ.
She hated the hairdoos. she was snarky about how Janeway must be vain and have a beauty salon in her ready room. Even dabbled in threatening to quit if they didn't commit to an easy style.
she's indifferent about the merchandise. sometimes plays along, sometimes makes a face.
She loves her fans. most of them have been respectful and gracious. she doesn't have the issues with fans Ryan does. she finds it odd how people think of her in such regard or authority they don't cross lines.
Mulgrew liked playing off of Picard (in Nemesis) but really wants to star in another Star Trek where she's admiral (she's no longer ashamed to embrace admiral. 16 years ago she wanted to remain the title of Captain.) but what she's after is bossing Captain Picard and Admiral Kirk (but he's not alive...right?? but it's what she said)
Was that what you were lookng for? Or just hoping for more detailed interchange and anecdotes that she might have left out?
Oh, and lastly, she knows Trekkers were going to be top consumers however, like she said, "I want to be known." she wasn't out to entertain us. she wanted to be honest since she wears so many masks as an actress.
I really don't understand those who are so fond of gossips. I mean, actors/comedians are people like us who can like and dislike some others people who work with them and then 7 years, it's long, especially if the working days are endless -> the relationships with colleagues can change ...
To know if Mulgrew got an intimate relationship with one of her partners during her on ST: Voyager is HER affair and not ours! Whatever happened in behind the scenes with Ryan, Beltran, etc... or even staff, she always showed professionalism on the set, contrary to certain other actors in other series (The Good Wife, Charmed, etc...).
Her popularity with the fans of Voyager and OITNB, seems high (in the clapometer, she wins almost every time!
). Never met her but 2 of my friends attended several times some Star Trek Conventions in Europe & States and they told me that on scene, she was a true showwoman: She knew how to charm her public almost immediately in being funny, witty, warm. But what they really appreciated with her is that she took time to answer fans questions with most possible sincerity and respect.
In brief, they adore attending the conventions where she is present (they told me that Robert Picardo was great to listen too).
Their only regret is not ot have been able to get a signed picture and to talk with her. Maybe the next time...
(oh, they told me that they have been let speechless when she admitted that Janeway had much more in common with Paris than Chakotay and that consequently, a romance between Janeway/Paris would have been more logical for her -> even if I thought the same, it never happened so....
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I'd love to see her putting on admiral's clothes. It could be funny to hear her lecturing a stubborn captain who would have violated repeatedly the first directive and\or acted in a crazy way ....like her ,20 or30 years before.
As for Picard, I thought that he has never accepted a admiralty?! Anyway, it could be interesting to see them sharing a scene or or two, seen their respective character. At the same time, when they wanted to reach a precise purpose, all the ways are acceptable, so...
I like to see Mulgrew sharing some scenes with Russ or McNeil ore Dawson. There is a deep affection which can be felt. I read somewhere that she was friend with Picardo and Philips and their scenes are always great.
To know if Mulgrew got an intimate relationship with one of her partners during her on ST: Voyager is HER affair and not ours! Whatever happened in behind the scenes with Ryan, Beltran, etc... or even staff, she always showed professionalism on the set, contrary to certain other actors in other series (The Good Wife, Charmed, etc...).
Her popularity with the fans of Voyager and OITNB, seems high (in the clapometer, she wins almost every time!
). Never met her but 2 of my friends attended several times some Star Trek Conventions in Europe & States and they told me that on scene, she was a true showwoman: She knew how to charm her public almost immediately in being funny, witty, warm. But what they really appreciated with her is that she took time to answer fans questions with most possible sincerity and respect. In brief, they adore attending the conventions where she is present (they told me that Robert Picardo was great to listen too).
Their only regret is not ot have been able to get a signed picture and to talk with her. Maybe the next time...
(oh, they told me that they have been let speechless when she admitted that Janeway had much more in common with Paris than Chakotay and that consequently, a romance between Janeway/Paris would have been more logical for her -> even if I thought the same, it never happened so....
)I'd love to see her putting on admiral's clothes. It could be funny to hear her lecturing a stubborn captain who would have violated repeatedly the first directive and\or acted in a crazy way ....like her ,20 or30 years before.
As for Picard, I thought that he has never accepted a admiralty?! Anyway, it could be interesting to see them sharing a scene or or two, seen their respective character. At the same time, when they wanted to reach a precise purpose, all the ways are acceptable, so...
I like to see Mulgrew sharing some scenes with Russ or McNeil ore Dawson. There is a deep affection which can be felt. I read somewhere that she was friend with Picardo and Philips and their scenes are always great.