When the episode "Flashback" was made why wasn't the K't'inga model from STTMP used? If almost eveyone refers to Kang's ship as a K't'inga, why not use the actual model of the ship?
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Kang's Ship in "Flashback"
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Jein also built an all-new USS Excelsior, a smaller and more manageable model than the one created for ST3:TSfS.
As for the battle cruiser, the original TMP one had been extensively repainted for use in ST6, and perhaps it was felt that the red-and-gold "Kronos One colors" would distract the audience. In any case, the differences between the models are minor - apart from the return to the TMP-style paint job, Kang's ship has a new type of greeblie at the stern, where the TMP ship used to have the hole for the motion-control arm (also doubling as the aft torpedo tube). It's clearly still a K't'inga.
Timo Saloniemi
As for the battle cruiser, the original TMP one had been extensively repainted for use in ST6, and perhaps it was felt that the red-and-gold "Kronos One colors" would distract the audience. In any case, the differences between the models are minor - apart from the return to the TMP-style paint job, Kang's ship has a new type of greeblie at the stern, where the TMP ship used to have the hole for the motion-control arm (also doubling as the aft torpedo tube). It's clearly still a K't'inga.
Timo Saloniemi
Why get rid of the aft torpedo tube if the ship in "Flashback" is supposed to be a K't'inga!?
JDW
JDW
It could be an upgradeed D-7 too, there are some features present in the ship's design!
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Because that big hole in the rear end of the ship always looked kinda silly?
When they toured the original model, it also had a greeblie to cover the aft hole - a parabolic dish piece, as seen here.
Ships in the real world often undergo far greater modifications while still remaining of a class. Who knows, perhaps the K't'inga class was built to receive modular add-ons in that location to begin with?
If the TMP Enterprise can be claimed to be the TOS ship upgraded, then the K't'inga certainly could be an upgrade of the TOS Klingon ship, despite having lots of recontouring and not just lots of added detail.
And in "Prophecy", didn't Tuvok confirm that the TMP-shaped/Kang-style Klingon ship is still known as D7 in Starfleet circles? We've never heard K't'inga on screen, but no doubt the Klingon ships have both proper names and D designations. The former might be Starfleet code names (like Soviet ship classes were given random Russian words as "names" during the Cold War: Kresta, Kara, Kynda...), while the letter codes appear to be the way the Klingons themselves refer to their own ships (or at least Kor does in "Once More Unto the Breach").
Timo Saloniemi
Because that big hole in the rear end of the ship always looked kinda silly?
When they toured the original model, it also had a greeblie to cover the aft hole - a parabolic dish piece, as seen here.
Ships in the real world often undergo far greater modifications while still remaining of a class. Who knows, perhaps the K't'inga class was built to receive modular add-ons in that location to begin with?
If the TMP Enterprise can be claimed to be the TOS ship upgraded, then the K't'inga certainly could be an upgrade of the TOS Klingon ship, despite having lots of recontouring and not just lots of added detail.
And in "Prophecy", didn't Tuvok confirm that the TMP-shaped/Kang-style Klingon ship is still known as D7 in Starfleet circles? We've never heard K't'inga on screen, but no doubt the Klingon ships have both proper names and D designations. The former might be Starfleet code names (like Soviet ship classes were given random Russian words as "names" during the Cold War: Kresta, Kara, Kynda...), while the letter codes appear to be the way the Klingons themselves refer to their own ships (or at least Kor does in "Once More Unto the Breach").
Timo Saloniemi
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