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Justice

The whole point of those zones was that they would cover the entire planet. Anybody's bedroom could be a punishment zone at any time. And it would be impossible to know that one was not in a punishment zone.

Essentially, it was a means of decreasing the workload of the police. They only patrol a tiny area of the planet at a time (and thus are able to mount an immediate response to Wesley's offense), but they control crime elsewhere by imposing an excessively harsh punishment and thus driving fear in the hearts of wrongdoers. A bit like the stereotypical RCMP patrolman who quells a rebelling city by his very presence (with the implication that it could be the presence of a heavily armed brigade of his colleagues if people didn't behave).

That's fairly reasonable, really. If crime is to be deterred through fear of punishment, why settle for less than death? (Indeed, why settle for painless death? Add torture to death for better measure! These people were being lenient, probably because their solution to crime had already worked and people did behave themselves.) And if deterrence is your strategy, why bother with constant patrol when selective patrol will do just as well?

The only unreasonable aspect here is that Wesley's actions would constitute a crime. He would not have been deterred from having that accident even had he known about the somewhat unusual punishment system. Moreover, Tasha Yar said that the laws of the planet were reasonable and not out of the ordinary (even though the planetary officials and their promotional material clearly failed to describe the way those laws were enforced). Criminalizing the accidental damaging of property would certainly be unreasonable and out of the ordinary.

Now, the episode would have worked much better had Wesley become agitated in a friendly game of futuroball, and punched one of his opponents. Death penalty for deliberate violence would certainly make sense, in this system based on extreme deterrence and minimal patrol...

Timo Saloniemi
 
I think the point of the "punishment zone" was obviously that it would be impractical to absolutely enforce the law in this way all over the planet all of the time, so they tried to leverage its effectiveness by instituting it randomly and without warning.

They do something like that around here with traffic enforcement cameras - they've got a lot of empty camera boxes and a limited number of cameras they move from place to place. You just don't know whether the one watching you is "live" or not. :lol:
 
Watched "Justice" again last night. I think it is probably my least favourite TNG episode. My general reaction to the "children" on the planet running around in very little and making love "at the drop of a hat" induces one reaction; yuk!!!
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I think it was yet another pot shot by Roddenberry over the prudishness of much of American culture. I tend to agree with him and SF fans seem to be even worse when "sex" is mentioned...god forbid they show sexual content.

While the episode is NOT one of my favorites, I think the message is quite good...even a "prime directive" cannot be an absolute law...the spirit of the law sometimes has to followed rather than the letter of it.

For an episode so often reviled, it has an awful lot of interesting themes in it.

RAMA
 
^^ If you cut the first fifteen to twenty minutes out of this episode, the sex and people in barely anything parts, and made it about what RAMA said about themes and the spirit of the law.

I am not opposed to sexuality, but it needs to be done right.
 
Danny99 Wrote

I am not opposed to sexuality, but it needs to be done right.

Absolutely. On this occasion it was embarrassing and not because it was explicit, it was just YUK as I said before.
 
Danny99 Wrote

I am not opposed to sexuality, but it needs to be done right.
Absolutely. On this occasion it was embarrassing and not because it was explicit, it was just YUK as I said before.


I'm just happy if it made the religious right squirm in its collective 1987 seats. Then it was a real success.
 
^^ If you cut the first fifteen to twenty minutes out of this episode, the sex and people in barely anything parts, and made it about what RAMA said about themes and the spirit of the law.

I am not opposed to sexuality, but it needs to be done right.

A lot of that was there, and Picard makes one of his best speeches ever in this episode.
 
Danny99 Wrote

I am not opposed to sexuality, but it needs to be done right.
Absolutely. On this occasion it was embarrassing and not because it was explicit, it was just YUK as I said before.


I'm just happy if it made the religious right squirm in its collective 1987 seats. Then it was a real success.

I do not fully understand this. My comment had absolutely nothing to do with sexual morality. In this respect it was quite tame. It's just the thought of sexual activity becoming your reason d'etre. Did they not have anything else to do for heavens sake but sit around snogging like a lot of adolescents on heat?
 
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