Just started watching Voyager again
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There is no way in hell that is on the up and up. Also, that packaging is neither region 1, 2, 3 or 4 (my sources: http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/DVD#Star_Trek:_Voyager_DVDs and http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/794196)
Paramount may charge an arm and a leg, but it's still better than supporting the bootleggers.
EDIT: Link removed
Supporting the bootleggers?
WTF?
This isn't the 80s where you buy crappy shoddy handcam versions on the street corner from a drug pushing pimp trying to be classy, or trademark violations crap mass produced shit coming out of Malasia by the ton which is then competing in an open and fair market against the real high price super quality stuff which real people chose to apply their money towards instead of paramounts wares.
This is Communism at it's purest. Well there are the pay sites, but that just proves how cool capitalism is... Any home Computer can build a torrent and upload a ripped DVD onto the internet, even "yours/ours/mine" and there is no cash return for this dealy. Bootlegging these days with the internet in of it self is like monks in the middle ages illuminating manuscripts and hand copying historical works falling to pieces which have also fallen out of print for one reason or another...
Bittorrents are not about money, it's about love baby, all you need is love, love love.
WTF?
This isn't the 80s where you buy crappy shoddy handcam versions on the street corner from a drug pushing pimp trying to be classy, or trademark violations crap mass produced shit coming out of Malasia by the ton which is then competing in an open and fair market against the real high price super quality stuff which real people chose to apply their money towards instead of paramounts wares.
This is Communism at it's purest. Well there are the pay sites, but that just proves how cool capitalism is... Any home Computer can build a torrent and upload a ripped DVD onto the internet, even "yours/ours/mine" and there is no cash return for this dealy. Bootlegging these days with the internet in of it self is like monks in the middle ages illuminating manuscripts and hand copying historical works falling to pieces which have also fallen out of print for one reason or another...
Bittorrents are not about money, it's about love baby, all you need is love, love love.
C
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Voyager dvd's are hardly "out of print" at this point.
It's still illegal, and it's still a bootleg any way you want to spin it
The talk about getting illegal bootlegs and torrents will stop now. Thanks.
Umm, yeah your source is no more reliable than any other. Also the box that it comes in from that site is not to different from the box that my DS9 series collection came in, and I bought it from Circut City for only a slightly higer price.
But if you would have actually read the page instead of making assumptions you would have seen the legal disclamer at the bottom, stating that they are not pirated videos.
But anyway. Are links to more reputable DVD retailers acceptable? IE DVDsupplier.com.
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Fancy disclaimer or no fancy disclaimer, I stand by my assertion that the product the previous poster linked to is a bootleg.
Knock it off.
I read the little disclaimer at the bottom of the website, and didn't believe it either. You will not get all seven seasons new for $180, when it still retails for over $600 on Amazon and other legitimate sites, unless something hokey is going on. Any further discussion about this needs to take place via private message, and not in this thread.
I read the little disclaimer at the bottom of the website, and didn't believe it either. You will not get all seven seasons new for $180, when it still retails for over $600 on Amazon and other legitimate sites, unless something hokey is going on. Any further discussion about this needs to take place via private message, and not in this thread.
I've recently started watching VOY again, and I've been surprised at how much I'm enjoying it, and how well it still holds up. I think it holds up better than ENT does, and that only ended two years ago! Voyager did have a few good story arcs in its first few seasons (The Kazon, Vidians, Seska, etc)
The death knell for Voyager, for me, was the introduction of the Borg. After the superb Scorpion it all went downhill. Their introduction created an over-reliance, which ultimately turned the Borg into something farcical, whilst original races to Voyager were neglected.
The first few years of Voyager weren't bad, and whilst later seasons had some inspired individual episodes, generally it had lost the plot for me by the time it went into its fourth season.
Enterprise, was the other way around. A really poor start, and first couple of years. A change in format for year three paid dividend, and season four, IMO, was more consistent than any season of Voyager.
The first few years of Voyager weren't bad, and whilst later seasons had some inspired individual episodes, generally it had lost the plot for me by the time it went into its fourth season.
Enterprise, was the other way around. A really poor start, and first couple of years. A change in format for year three paid dividend, and season four, IMO, was more consistent than any season of Voyager.
We've acquired VOY seasons 1-4 used this year. Hadn't watched it in years. The wife and I both find season one superb and after that so far (we're at the tail end of season three) the series is maddeningly inconsistent. I remember Scorpion 1 & 2 being great, but after that, the inconsistency sets in once again.
The whole Seska arc still makes us want to barf and Chakotay's brain-dead handling of same is laughable. Still, there are gems sprinkled amongst even that, enough to keep watching. "Future's End" is particulary good.
The whole Seska arc still makes us want to barf and Chakotay's brain-dead handling of same is laughable. Still, there are gems sprinkled amongst even that, enough to keep watching. "Future's End" is particulary good.
Hmmm, Voyager was going through a downhill period after Michael Piller left and the uninspired Jeri Taylor took control in Seasons Two to Three - honestly she was worse than Braga (who copped most of the blame somehow)...
Maybe that happened because the original races like Kazon, Oocompa, and Viidians were not especially good races that were not utilized in most episodes all that well? Granted I was sickened of the Borg come Season Six, but they weren't that badly misused until after the shallow (but entertaining) "Dark Frontier". And there were the Hirogen and Krenim who pretty good Delta civilizations.
Plus the inclusion of the Borg also introduced us to one of the hottest top five sci-fi chicks in the last two decades. :thumbsup:
Season Four was the best Voyager season by a parsec and the decent Season Five was easily comparable to Season One - Season Two was not bad, but not brilliant either (like Season Six) and Season Three was really overrated, little better than the creatively burned out Season Seven (but like you said, even the weakest points of a show can still have individually good episodes).
Not quite - only Season Two of Enterprise was genuinely bad and while Season Four was good, it essentially felt like glorified Trekkie fanfiction on a 10 million dollar budget.
BigFiend said:
Ensign?
It's now Lieutenant Junior Grade.
It's a shame I'm a youngling (well, fairly young, 17), I never got to watch the original airing of ST:VOY. Actually, I thought scifi was pretty dorky until 4 years ago when I watched Stargate Atlantis's premier. Since then, I've bought every season on SG:1, Atlantis, and I'm starting on Bablyon 5. I dared not venture into Star Trek until a few months ago when they started the ENT reruns on SciFi and I fell in love! Spike has Voyager reruns and the show is simply amazing. I wish I could watch all the episodes in order, but still, the plot is amazing.
Glad to hear that you are enjoying your Voyager season. I'm trying to decide if I want to buy the last few Babylon 5 seasons first and then move on to Voyager or what... It's a tough situation :P
Glad to hear that you are enjoying your Voyager season. I'm trying to decide if I want to buy the last few Babylon 5 seasons first and then move on to Voyager or what... It's a tough situation :P
Finish Babylon 5, but rather than head on to Voyager, may I suggest Farscape?
I has been a long long time since I watched Voyager, but I decided to dig out the 'Tinker, Tenor, Doctor, Spy' episode out the other day, and what a hoot. I forgot how good the show was. I need to re-visit it really. :thumbsup:
In episode "Time and Again" season 1, about a planet devastated by a global nuclear type explosion, why didn't Neelix mention the disaster on his planet's moon when it was struck by a weapon like he did in a later episode called "Jetrel"?
Well, he'd never told Kes about the war before 'Jetrel'because he said there are some things he just doesn't like to discuss. So he wasn't going to blurt it out on the Time and Again planet with half the bridge crew standing there.
Of course, it's more likely the writers just hadn't fleshed out his backstory until Jetrel. But we wouldn't be Trekkies if we didnt search for ways to rationalise every instance of incontinuity, would we?
Of course, it's more likely the writers just hadn't fleshed out his backstory until Jetrel. But we wouldn't be Trekkies if we didnt search for ways to rationalise every instance of incontinuity, would we?
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