Just got Brain of Morbius *uncoded spoilers*
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Nah, just my opinion. If it read like "fact" - well that's because I strongly believe my opinion. 
I've never had a problem with accepting the "Morbius Doctors". In fact, I don't really understand why it should be a problem.
I've never had a problem with accepting the "Morbius Doctors". In fact, I don't really understand why it should be a problem.
As I'm sure many here are aware, in Mawdrin Undead, Davison's Doctor states he has regenerated four times. In The Five Doctors he also states "there are five of me now". And in Time and the Rani there is a reference to McCoy's Doctor being the seventh.. hmm..
Good points well made- Let's not forget that John Smith's diary in Human Nature/Family of Blood only features sketches of 9 other Doctors (I'm sure someone will argue that the other incarnations were on an earlier page now
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Nah, just my opinion. If it read like "fact" - well that's because I strongly believe my opinion.
It's not a problem for anyone (aside from some of the sadder denizens of outpost gallifrey - but screw them).
Thing is, it's a pretty vague scene. The intent was explicitly to imply there were earlier Doctors, sure, but it isn't as clear cut on screen so it's fairly easy to reconcile it with what we know from other serials.
I think "wibbly wobbly timey wimey" may be on the tip of a few tongues (don't you f'ing dare EMH :P) but it doesn't apply here, especially not when there's a far simpler explanation.
Actually, every single character in The Five Doctors is an incarnation of the Doctor.If there were pre Hartnell incarnations then wouldn't the Three Doctors have been the 13 Doctors and the Five Doctors the 18 Doctors or something?
Actually, every single character in The Five Doctors is an incarnation of the Doctor.If there were pre Hartnell incarnations then wouldn't the Three Doctors have been the 13 Doctors and the Five Doctors the 18 Doctors or something?
Even Tegan and Turlough eh?
And that's kind of the crux of the matter for me. Why? Why would one want to reconcile it? "Brain of Morbius" suddenly opens up this mad possibility that everything we think we know about the Doctor may not in fact be right. I think that's a wonderful thing, something to be celebrated. I don't think the various different statements are incompatible, just that we don't know the whole story and how it all fits together - and indeed, maybe even the Doctor doesn't. This is a series predicated on mystery, whose very title is a question of identity. These sudden little moments of inconsistency are something to fuel the imagination. Just ask Lance Parkin.
Anyway, it seems you yourself feel something similar, since earlier you said:
Amen...
These's been I guess you could call it a subtest that the stories of the Doctor we know as his secondtime around (c.f his "more than just anouther Timelord" line from Revelation of The Daleks) and that he a major role in Gallifreyan history.
We know from The 5 Doctors that a Timelord can be endowed with another set of regenerations.
Now it could well be that the Morbius unintentionally began this notion of a past existance for the Doctor and that the faces that appeared were from his first existance/set of regenerations
We know from The 5 Doctors that a Timelord can be endowed with another set of regenerations.
Now it could well be that the Morbius unintentionally began this notion of a past existance for the Doctor and that the faces that appeared were from his first existance/set of regenerations
Actually, that's a deleted scene from Remembrance of the Daleks. The same idea is also brought up in Silver Nemesis.
I know how you feel. Took me a long time keep the three of them straight.
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