Just Go To Sickbay!

Discussion in 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' started by Mojochi, May 18, 2020.

  1. Mojochi

    Mojochi Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Exactly how many times has Troi had a spell, or health episode, where she wants to go to her quarters, instead of reporting it, or going to sickbay? To her credit, in The Child, she's reporting to Pulaski pretty quick about that one, but after that she goes straight into a trope.

    In The Survivors, she has to abruptly leave a briefing for not feeling well, while the doctor is right there & offering aid. The Loss, she's struggling with a patient, who actually can tell she's distressed & asks if she's ok, & she brushes it off with a "I'm just tired". In Clues it's on the bridge with a "It's just a headache", & turning down the captain's suggestion to get looked at

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    isn't as clear, because I'm not sure she's aware of what's happening, even though she's deteriorated terribly by the time she gets medical treatment. However, it's cold sweat nightmares in Night Terrors, that no one finds out about, until after everybody else is on the ragged edge, But then FINALLY in Eye of The Beholder she actually did it! It took her years before she'd have an episode & then report it! Huzzah!

    But then in Genesis, she's back to raising rooms temperatures & bathing in her uniform, & never thinking "Maybe my health is off a bit?" It takes Worf biting her face to get her to show up in sickbay. lol

    You're a healthcare provider, lady! Get with the program!
     
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  2. NCC-73515

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    Troi was not really well written, and treating her immediately would have ended the stories too soon XD
     
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    She's Iatrophobic. A serious, real-world problem you don't often see in television. It was refreshing.
     
  4. Mojochi

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    Then she picked a hell of a profession & best friend
     
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    Do yo run to the doctor every time you have a headache, tired or are feeling a bit ill? They call those people hypochondriacs.

    I can say that in "The Loss" she's in so much pain she can barely move and she calls Crusher who is rushing out of there to help more seriously injured people. Because that's her job. To treat the wounded. Not "this woman who has a bit of a headache today and is kind of acting out of her personality."

    In "Genesis" its also a case of she may not be fully aware something is off, no one picks up on it. Barclay is taking on an arachnid stance, Rikeir is staring blankly at consoles and into space and Worf us spitting acid at people. No one realizes this is going on until things are so bad it's too late to do anything.

    And, I suspect, with Troi and the serious bite that more prompts her to go to SB than breaking out of an anti-SB attitude since ths is an injury she can't possibly sleep off.
     
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  6. Mojochi

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    If I was essentially a healthcare worker/astronaut, assigned to a ship in the inhospitable environment of deep space, with free access to a 24/7 healthcare service in short walking distance, & lived in a century where those things were less commonplace? Yes. Absolutely. In a heartbeat.

    Like I said, in some cases she's literally being prompted by coworkers or superiors to do just that. Hell, in Schisms, Will's got fatigue & goes there just to get a warm milk recipe. It doesn't hurt to check it out, especially considering how often they're bumbling into something. lol

    Frankly, in space there really is no such thing as a hypochondriac. Real astronauts get their medical condition monitored constantly
     
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    And some people know when you have a headache you just go lie down. There's no need to go see a doctor for every, single, little thing. Yeah when these things happen to Troi it's a big deal because, story.

    But for every alien entity taking over her mind or blocking her telepathic powers there's probably 20 instances of she just has a headache and it'll pass. In this show we're seeing the few days where exciting stuff happened. Most of the rest of the time they're just cruising around looking for excitement, charting things and doing analysis.
     
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  8. Marynator

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    We don't know how often she gets headaches, she might be used to them and knows 99 percent of the time, lying down for a bit will fix it, or it'll go away in an hour or so on its own. Maybe she did go to a doctor once, three times a day, when she gets a headache and was constantly told "There's nothing I can do, you're going to have to live with this, go lie down for a bit."

    I feel it's easy to look back at the end of an episode and say "She should've gone this time!" because obviously hindsight is 20/20.
     
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  9. Mojochi

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    I ain't even hearing none of that from 24th century medicine. Hell, in The Battle people aren't even supposed to have headaches anymore :guffaw:

    BTW, if you haven't noticed, I'm not taking this topic too seriously. It's just something I noticed that is mighty prevalent with her, anytime she's got the shitstorm of the week ;)

    Other's have had their share of it too, I'm sure. I'm looking at you Picard
     
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    Yeah in that one episode Dr.Crusher made a whole big deal out of Picard having a migraine because they are supposed to be a thing of the past. Which of course was ignored in every other episode where somebody's head hurts.

    What I find kinda curious is that we don't see many 24th century medical utensils for use by non-doctors. With technology that advanced and cost at the very least not being as much a factor as today, wouldn't it make sense for pretty much everybody to have some sort of headband at home that you can put on if you're having a headache and it tells you wehther it's just stress/the air/the weather/whatever or whether you should see a doctor?(heck, considering the reality of Star Trek a device like that should have an extra setting for "Your probably possessed by an energy being"
    Even in the episode where Troi's starchild-thing burns his finger it's Pulaski who jumps in and runs a blinky thing over his hand that repairs the skin.
    Shouldn't Troi have something like that in her quarters.
     
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    How do you know she doesn't? I don't recall the episode where they did a complete inventory of her home :P
     
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    If I had to guess, maybe regular people DO have that kind of stuff, but these are people assigned aboard a ship. While they've made a home there, this is mainly where they work, & at their work is a fully functional 24/7 free medical center, they can just stroll to, or tap a badge or panel to get assistance. Why would I keep gym equipment, in my limited living space, when I know there's a gym a few doors away? & why would I bother with a bunch of my own remedy stuff, when it's already nearby too, set up for me to avail myself of? Besides, those medical people WANT them to check in & make sure things are going ok.

    Hell, imposter Picard just wanders in one day for a checkup in Allegiance
     
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    Makes you wonder whether Beverley enjoys people coming to her for every head and tummy ache so she can tell them to replicate warm milk :lol:
     
  14. Mojochi

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    Probably not lol. However, I like to think of that as senior staff privilege. She has a sizable medical staff, that would be just as capable of handling the small daily stuff. The only in universe explanation for why every bump or whatnot our main characters get is taken directly to her, is because, for whatever reason, she wants/expects to be more closely involved in their care specifically, or they've come to expect it of her
     
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    It seems like everybody's quarters should be equipped with some kind of basic health screening tech so the ship's doctors don't have to be bothered over every little thing.

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    You'd think these things. Like when Picard has the headache in The Battle or Troi in The Loss, granted they're serious headache brought on by external forces, but do they not have a bottle of Asprin in their desk to try before calling Sickbay?
     
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    Phew, thankfully TNG never showed the bathrooms...

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  18. Mojochi

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    In truth, how much dire care giving is the medical staff routinely doing? Unless they are on some medical related mission, the majority of their time IS meant to be spent looking after the well being of the crew, in all manners big & small, & since most of the crew are generally in excellent health, because they're screened & cleared for duty, then there really isn't a whole mess of trauma center business going on aboard ship, for the most part, unless a crisis or mishap occurs.

    It's not like a hospital, where the majority of care is being given to the community's frail, & sickly. The mundane would be one of the largest areas of their practice, by my reckoning. Bev's practice is so routine, that she grows plants in the back, & conducts side research & stuff, none of which is actually germane to the care giving of doctoring. It's also why Troi herself has a practice that isn't routinely about dire psychotherapy. Mostly she's just listening to people air out their typical issues, enough so that she's apparently a good choice to contribute to crew evals.

    If the major events we see happen are meant to be the exceptional, then yeah, mostly they're just helping out with light insomnia, or a tummy ache or what have you. Hooking Worf up with some allergy meds while he's looking after Data's cat, or with some prune juice, cuz his bowel movements are without honor :rommie:
     
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    Easiest way to go to sickbay: Tap your communicator and say "emergency transport straight to sickbay".
     
  20. Mojochi

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    Yeah, I never even understood why they had those stretchers