In what parallel universe is this?
Joss Whedon's S.H.I.E.L.D to ABC!
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In what parallel universe is this?
I would weep openly.
You mean "the Son of Coul."
With no DC Nation I watched the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon on Disney which I hadn't seen in a while. Agent Coulson is doing well over there even taking Aunt May out on a date.
That character is not our Coulson. He's Principal Woodman as played by Clark Gregg. The real Coulson is cool and fun; this guy is just a stock rigid authority figure for the teen heroes to rebel against. He's even more out of character than that show's version of Spider-Man, who's the same snarky, irresponsible teen hero that Man of Action write in every one of their shows. I mean, seriously, Spidey is the last character it makes sense to write as lacking responsibility.
It was addressed in a throwaway line, that Odin had to harness immense energies to find a way to send Thor back to Earth after losing the Bifrost. And Loki had others' help. (And of course Loki's presence on Earth after his "death" scene was established in Thor's post-credits scene.)
the only reason they are not yet back, is because there has been no Firefly for them to return to.
^That's an odd interpretation. Plenty of characters killed in Whedon shows haven't come back to life. Leaving out those who died in finales, they include Jenny Calendar, Kendra, Tara, Buffy's mother, Doyle, and Jonathan. You could make a case for Darla, who was actually resurrected twice (first when she was sired as a vampire), but whose third death was final.
Also, it's simplistic and misguided to assume that all Whedon shows are identical in approach. All the resurrections we've seen in his canon to date have been in the Buffyverse, which is blatantly a fantasy universe where magic and a variety of afterlives exist and it's actually quite common for the dead to return in some form (heck, the whole premise depends on the existence of vampires). And in Dollhouse, the ability of an individual's identity (or at least a copy thereof) to survive death by transferring to a new body is one of the main ramifications of the core premise that the show explored, so it's built into that universe in a completely different way. But Firefly/Serenity is a science fiction universe that, aside from a sloppy grasp of astrophysics and terraforming, is fairly naturalistic. There are no aliens, no faster-than-light travel, no teleportation -- really the one fanciful element is the existence of telepathy. The closest thing we've seen to a resurrection in that universe was in the first comic, where a character Mal shot in the pilot turned out to have not quite died from the injury. Clearly the ground rules are different, so it doesn't follow that resurrection would be as feasible.
Also, it's simplistic and misguided to assume that all Whedon shows are identical in approach. All the resurrections we've seen in his canon to date have been in the Buffyverse, which is blatantly a fantasy universe where magic and a variety of afterlives exist and it's actually quite common for the dead to return in some form (heck, the whole premise depends on the existence of vampires). And in Dollhouse, the ability of an individual's identity (or at least a copy thereof) to survive death by transferring to a new body is one of the main ramifications of the core premise that the show explored, so it's built into that universe in a completely different way. But Firefly/Serenity is a science fiction universe that, aside from a sloppy grasp of astrophysics and terraforming, is fairly naturalistic. There are no aliens, no faster-than-light travel, no teleportation -- really the one fanciful element is the existence of telepathy. The closest thing we've seen to a resurrection in that universe was in the first comic, where a character Mal shot in the pilot turned out to have not quite died from the injury. Clearly the ground rules are different, so it doesn't follow that resurrection would be as feasible.
I thought he was fun in the last one with the Beetle but that's my only experience with the animated version.
Casting news!
Interestingly, this is not one of the characters described in the recently released casting call sheet.
Interestingly, this is not one of the characters described in the recently released casting call sheet.
No, it is one of those characters; they've just renamed her from Althea Rice to Melinda May. It's quite common for character names to change in the development of a show.
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I was just going by what the article said...
I was just going by what the article said...
Yes, the article said that, but clearly their own writer failed to follow the link he included, since that link makes it clear the character description is the same. I've seen the same news reported by multiple other sites in the past day, and they all recognized that May and Rice were the same character. Newsarama just fumbled the ball.
That's actually me. Small world.
Just waiting for her character to unexpectedly drop Chinese phrases from time to time
S.H.I.E.L.D. to start shooting in January.
I hope that, for the pilot at least, they spring for a movie name or two. If Nick Fury or Tony Stark appeared in the pilot, they'd make a chunk of the budget back in the DVD/Blu-Ray sales alone.
ETA: If they are to explain away Coulson's survival (and I realize that his survival is still actually just an assumption) bringing in SLJ for a cameo would seem a natural fit.
I hope that, for the pilot at least, they spring for a movie name or two. If Nick Fury or Tony Stark appeared in the pilot, they'd make a chunk of the budget back in the DVD/Blu-Ray sales alone.
ETA: If they are to explain away Coulson's survival (and I realize that his survival is still actually just an assumption) bringing in SLJ for a cameo would seem a natural fit.
I read an item saying that some comment had been made that ambiguously implied that he might only be in the pilot. But I'm skeptical of that, since Whedon's words when Gregg's involvement was announced were, "He's headlining the S.H.I.E.L.D. show and always was." "Headlining" means having the lead role, not making a cameo in the pilot.