Joss Whedon in final negotiations to direct "The Avengers"

[BlackestPanther]

I really can't believe the lengths people will go to in order to defend Josh Wheedon.

First, you're still getting his name wrong, and second, he really doesn't need defending. His work speaks for itself.

On that, we can agree: a string of failed TV shows and a bomb at the box office. Case closed.

 

[stonester1]

Critical acclaim, the adulation of fans and fellow creators, academic admiration and deep cultural impact.

Case closed indeed.

 

[Lindley]

From a purely economic standpoint, you're correct. However, most of us are looking at things from a creativity and entertainment standpoint, from which his work looks far more attractive.

His biggest problem is that he comes up with premises which are too "out there" to be easily marketable, and names for them which are too clever for the same reason. However, with "The Avengers", neither one of these is really an issue.

 

[BlackestPanther]

I really can't believe the lengths people will go to in order to defend Josh Wheedon.

First, you're still getting his name wrong, and second, he really doesn't need defending. His work speaks for itself.

On that, we can agree: a string of failed TV shows and a bomb at the box office. Case closed.

And Serenity owned your sorry ass. Don't even try it with the notion that box office success equates to quality. You will lose what shreds of cred you may have left.

This is the kind of browncoat bullshit that Whedon inspires for some reason. People like you are responsible for Whedon's enlarged ego. Maybe if you folks would actually wake up and smell what he's been shoveling, he wouldn't be such a douche. I swear, if I have to hear him bitch and moan one more time about how studios and re-writes have ruined his work, I'm going to change genders. The guy has produced some great stuff, but that was SO 1995. He has become derivative.

As we have few measures of quality in this world, Box Office does for sure give at least a partial indication. How about major awards as an indicator? Nope, no Oscars or Golden Globes. Not even nominated. Oh, you mean it won a bunch of internet poll based awards? WELL SIGN THE MAN RIGHT NOW!!!

 

[BlackestPanther]

Critical acclaim,

False.

the adulation of fans and fellow creators,

Some fans. Even Hitler had a rabid following. What's your point? You want him to direct?

academic admiration and deep cultural impact.

Both so false that I won't even bother to defy you to prove it.

 

[Lindley]

Ah, Godwin'd.....

The most mysterious thing for me is why some people have such antipathy towards him. I truely do not understand it.

Fortunately, I also don't really care.

 

[T'Baio]

Godwin'd!

 

[BlackestPanther]

Ah, Godwin'd.....

The most mysterious thing for me is why some people have such antipathy towards him. I truely do not understand it.

I, for one, don't understand why everyone is so eager to such Josh Whedon's cock.

I'm just trying to wake you up. Take the pill. Go down the rabit whole. The Whedon is the wool that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you to the truth: That he sucks.

 

[stonester1]

True, and easy to prove with your own internet search. Have you actually done one?

Some fans. Even Hitler had a rabid following. What's your point? You want him to direct?

Sure, if he can tell stories.

Both so false that I won't even bother to defy you to prove it.

You seem so confident in this, why don't you prove your assertion?

Yeah, I don't get it with Whedon haters. They seem RABID. The only comparable phenom is with BSG TOSsers.

 

[Lindley]

Look, you already lost the argument by invoking Hitler. That's an automatic argument-loss condition, didn't you know?

But if you want to keep on railing against this Josh guy, go ahead. We're all talking about Joss, not Josh. Perhaps that's the source of our differing views?

 

[BlackestPanther]

You seem so confident in this, why don't you prove your assertion?

You are the one who originally made it. Back it up or retract it. I know you won't, though. Sounded good at the time, I suppose.

I have this friend who is a nerd and has a website. He says Wheedon is a good choice because has experience on Astonishing X-Men shows a grasp of the material and a good mix of ensemble interaction and action. I say, Colossus returns AGAIN? How inspired! We're likely to get a Wasp who is bi and having an affair with the Scarlet Witch because Whedon does that kind of pandering.

 

[ITL]

Whedon directing The Avengers sounds good to me.

 

[Lindley]

I have this friend who is a nerd and has a website. He says Wheedon is a good choice because has experience on Astonishing X-Men shows a grasp of the material and a good mix of ensemble interaction and action. I say, Colossus returns AGAIN? How inspired! We're likely to get a Wasp who is bi and having an affair with the Scarlet Witch because Whedon does that kind of pandering.

Could be worse. Imagine if it were Russel T Davies....

 

[Ethros]

This is awesome news. And I'm just laughing at the multitude of Whedon haters probably spewing in their basements.

Can't wait for his upcoming horror movie Cabin in the Woods (delayed now till 2011 thanks to a 3D conversion. Hope its better than Clash of the Titans')

 

[stonester1]

You seem so confident in this, why don't you prove your assertion?

You are the one who originally made it. Back it up or retract it. I know you won't, though. Sounded good at the time, I suppose.

Hmm...what's this? What's this? A section in wiki on academic interest in just Buffy alone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffy_studies

Buffy studies is a term applied to the collection of written works about, and the university courses that discuss aspects of, the television program Buffy the Vampire Slayer and, to a lesser extent, Angel. It explores issues related to gender as expressed through the content of these shows. Such work is concerned with the scholarly study and exploration of Joss Whedon's popular television series that take place in the fictional Buffyverse.
Neda Ulaby of National Public Radio describes Buffy as having a "special following among academics, some of whom have staked a claim in what they call "Buffy Studies."[1] Though not widely recognized as a distinct discipline, the term "Buffy studies" is commonly used amongst the academic Buffy-related writings.[2] Such studies are also sometimes referred to as 'Buffyology'

Game, set, match.

Douchebag.

Your play.

 

[Lindley]

I'm just trying to wake you up.

Back between Firefly and Serenity----2003-2005, mostly----many of us were trying to convince everyone and their brother to watch Firefly, because it was obvious to us that anything that good couldn't help but succeed if we could only convince people to give it a shot.

To a certain extent, we were right. To another extent, people found the preaching annoying, regardless of whether we were right or not. To a third extent, it really didn't matter; talking up something on the internet has little effect on the bulk of the moviegoing public.

Guess what? Shoe's on the other foot now. You may have some degree of rightness in your viewpoint, but your approach is seriously annoying....and it ultimately won't matter. Goes around comes around and all that.

 

[stonester1]

Everyone I got to watch Firefly loved it. Every one. I had a whole radio station in Germany recruited into the cause of the Browncoats.

And Whedon IS directing Avengers.

Suck it, haters.

 

[Kegg]

Ah, Godwin'd.....

The most mysterious thing for me is why some people have such antipathy towards him. I truely do not understand it.

Fortunately, I also don't really care.

In a nutshell, there's just a smugness about his writing that rubs me the wrong way. Smugness is rarely an endearing trait to me.

I liked Firefly, but Mal Reynolds did still piss me off at times, particularly the scenes where the undercurrent is 'yeah, ISN'T THIS GUY AWESOME? AND WITTY? BOO-YAH, ANOTHER GENIUS LINE FROM JOSS WHEDON.'

And there's Alien 4. I'm not sure which I'm less forgiving of: Him screwing it up, or him stiffing the blame on other people. But one disgresses.

 

[Hunter X]

stonester1, between the over the top arguments, stories of fat/nerdy friends, bad spelling of Joss Whedon's name (and in general), and finally the invocation of Hitler, I don't think this is a poster who is actually all that serious about his/her arguments, if you get my meaning.

I think Joss will do a good job, but I'm even more excited about the fact that a studio is picking someone interesting over someone commercial. Even if the movie is another commercial failure for him, even if he doesn't please all the fans, I appreciate the fact that someone out there is still willing to take risks in the interest of telling a good story.

 

[Captain Craig]

I have this friend who is a nerd and has a website.

Nerd? Says the guy posting on a Star Trek forum rambling on about Whedon and admits watching Buffy for at least 5yrs.
Nerd-->find a mirror Panther

If one is posting on this board at all he/she has self identifying nerd/geek qualities.
Your hatred makes me laugh... ...at you.

Please keep ranting.