TWOK was better w/o the deleted scenes. Most of the scenes cut back into TMP's Special Longer Version shoulda stood on the cutting room floor as well.
John Logan Deleted Wesley's Speaking Scene from NEM!
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I thought that the scenes in the restoration of Meyer's original cut of the movie added rather than subtracted from the story. The first one being the Peter Preston nephew comment, which explained Scotty's emotional state later in sickbay. Also, the scene between Kirk and Bones a few moments later in the same sickbay scene was very much like several scenes in TOS between them, especially in the first season. It also showed that Kirk acknowledges he did make a big mistake and that he knew that he nearly suffered a more devastating blow. It gave us that great line and delivery by Shatner, "We're only alive because I knew something about these ships that he didn't."
I am, however, glad that they left he "half-Romulan" comment and the David-Saavik romance subplot on the cutting room floor. I think that it's more powerful if Saavik were a full Vulcan who was prone to emotional outbursts like in the simulator scene.
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If memory serves, Meyer's original cut lacked Spock saying 'Remember Me', or the final bit with Kirk and Carol and McCoy looking out into space, and, of course, the final shot of the tube. My memory may be faulty on this one, but those were added to give a bit more optimism and leave the door open for Spock's return.
If memory serves, Meyer's original cut lacked Spock saying 'Remember Me', or the final bit with Kirk and Carol and McCoy looking out into space, and, of course, the final shot of the tube. My memory may be faulty on this one, but those were added to give a bit more optimism and leave the door open for Spock's return.
The Director's Cut DVD, of course, included the added bit with Spock's tube and the "Remember" sequence but restored what was in his original cut. Meyer's original cut, that was screened and led to the additional scenes, ended with Kirk, Carol and McCoy looking out at the planet. The whole "I feel young" line was always part of the movie and how Meyer wanted it to end. In fact, thematically it is the stronger ending; however, Bennett was right in saying that they needed to give the fans a little hope.
Wesley wasn't a Starfleet officer. He was a cadet, and he resigned from Starfleet Academy, making him a civilian at the time he left with the Traveler. At the wedding he's wearing a Lt(jg) uniform, a rank he never held in TNG. So it's not just a matter of him wearing his nicest clothes--he has definitely returned to Starfleet. Although maybe he's just a reservist, so he can spend most of his time exploring higher states of existence or whatever.
Worf could still be an inactive or retired officer, though.
And in exchange of said hope, diffused any real peril and eliminated any realistic character growth and change and the introduction of the dreaded "reset button" which has been in modern Trek ever since.
^Well, I do prefer the ending without the whole final bit. As I said, it is the stronger ending that fits with the themes of the movie.
I would've liked to have seen Trek play out if Spock stayed dead. For what that might've been like, I suggest reading the first few issues of DC comics first Trek comic run. Saavik as science-officer and Kirk, still an Admiral, in command of the Enterprise.
I would've liked to have seen Trek play out if Spock stayed dead. For what that might've been like, I suggest reading the first few issues of DC comics first Trek comic run. Saavik as science-officer and Kirk, still an Admiral, in command of the Enterprise.
It could've been interesting, but I am glad Spock lives. 
What was worse was that Wheaton was playing the part extra-gay! I mean you had to wonder if that hot chick had a cock tucked in between her legs.
The theatrical version and the directors cut have the exact same endings ... do they?
^Yes, but when Meyer originally cut the film it did not contain the Spock Tube at the end. It ended with the bridge scene.
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GOOD! Wesley was an annoying plot device so he could come in and act like Will Robinson and save the day when the grown ups cannot figure out was was going on !
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