John Eaves working on STXI

[RAMA]

Just saw this tidbit over at Trekmovie. The main designer of the Enterprise is Ryan Church, a name we've seen before, but I just took a look at some of his designs, and he seems to have a very cinematic vision. I welcome the new look of this movie!

http://www.ryanchurch.com/04PRO.htm

John Eaves is also working on STXI. Glad to see some of the old guys working on it too. Eaves had some of the better spaceship designs of the latter ST design team.

RAMA

 

[Dale]

So that's the bridge, right?

 

[RAMA]

dalehoppert said:
So that's the bridge, right?

No that's from Star Wars. But I felt it might be indicative of what we might see.

RAMA

 

[Q2UnME]

He did the initial design for the Enterprise - E.

I'm a little worried. The Grey Lady is looking like she's going to have one hell of a face lift.

Q2

 

[Profhig]

This scares me a little, I never liked the look of the 3 recent Star Wars movies. Too cartoony for my taste, still, as long as he treats the Enterprise with the respect she deserves than I'll be happy.

 

[RAMA]

One thing I really like...Church's alien planets LOOK alien.

Also, he's working on Cameron's high profile "Avatar". Looks like he's the next Syd Mead.

RAMA

 

[RAMA]

Profhig said:
This scares me a little, I never liked the look of the 3 recent Star Wars movies. Too cartoony for my taste, still, as long as he treats the Enterprise with the respect she deserves than I'll be happy.

Well let's not confuse the CGI with the design. I thought the Star Wars movies looked grand and classy...even if the rest of the production wasn't.

RAMA

 

[Dale]

RAMA said:

dalehoppert said:
So that's the bridge, right?

No that's from Star Wars. But I felt it might be indicative of what we might see.

I knew that... I clicked the link and checked him out. I was just being silly.

I guess I fall squarely into the "as long as he doesn't take too many liberties" category. His work is impressive, but he shouldn't be looking to create something new as much as recreate something classic but with more modern lines... kind of like what they've done to the Ford Mustang in recent years.

 

[Blip]

To be honest I'm more concerned that they're letting Eaves go anywhere near this movie... after the crap designs we got for the last few films (including the hideously fanboyish Ent-E), this is the first news that has made me feel somewhat negative about STIX.

 

[RAMA]

Blip said:
To be honest I'm more concerned that they're letting Eaves go anywhere near this movie... after the crap designs we got for the last few films (including the hideously fanboyish Ent-E), this is the first news that has made me feel somewhat negative about STIX.

Ack! Are you kidding? His alien ships were especially well done, but even the E-E is very popular, though not my favorite Enterprise. That would be the E-C!!

RZAMA

 

[Tyson]

I shudder at what this clown is going to do to the Enterprise.

 

[Mordock]

dalehoppert said:
I guess I fall squarely into the "as long as he doesn't take too many liberties" category. His work is impressive, but he shouldn't be looking to create something new as much as recreate something classic but with more modern lines... kind of like what they've done to the Ford Mustang in recent years.

Well, looking at his Episode III designs, with their precursor TIE fighters and Star Destroyers, he seems more than capable of cleaving to established design concepts, so unless he was given a brief to make the Enterprise really funky, it looks like he's not going to go nuts on the Flagship. At the same time, his art is also very imaginative (check out that piece on his personal page of two cowboys fighting a steampunk scorpion robot), so it looks he'll be able to inject his own flair into it as well.

Personally, I wouldn't mind somebody going nuts on the E, as long as they came up with something that was special in its own right. If they'd hired, say, Chris Foss to turn the 1701 into one of his vast striped polygonal beasts, I'd more gladly accept that than if they hired somebody to make it look like a dildo with a rudder.

 

[Stardate]

I feel this is positive news. This Ryan Church was concept design supervisor on Star Wars Episodes 2 and 3. I felt his work to be outstanding in these films. He has big and grandeur cinematic vision which is lacking in Star Trek Universe.
Rama pointed out that his Alien planets look ALIEN is spot on. I find his ,,Kamino planet scene,, in Star Wars 2 Attack of the Clones demonstrate his amazing talent..
Regarding John Eaves i am quite satisfied having him in XI. I big admirer of his Enterprise E design. Actually i fell his Enterprise design as true successor to Matt Jeffries TOS Enterprise and Andrew Probert Enterprise Refit.

 

[RAMA]

Mordock said:


Well, looking at his Episode III designs, with their precursor TIE fighters and Star Destroyers, he seems more than capable of cleaving to established design concepts,

Good point! He is actually experienced with redoing iconic symbols!

RAMA

 

[Ptrope]

I'm happy to see Ryan Church involved - he's got an immense imagination, and a sense of style that's well in keeping with TOS. John Eaves, though a good artist, is, unfortunately, not the most innovative of Trek designers, and I'd prefer not to see his hand in this. Sure, we want to see a thoroughly-recognizable Enterprise, but John's far too stuck in TNG, as evidenced by the final product in ENT - even if he didn't design it, his designs we've seen were The Same Old TNG stuff that led to a turnaround and Akiraprise. "One Trick Pony" comes to mind.

If nothing else, Ryan Church ensures we'll have some dramatic and beautiful production artwork, hopefully that we can buy shortly after the film comes out .

 

[Saul]

Hey John Eaves is a good designer with a lot of good work when left to himself. The problems comes when he is told how to make a ship look or what to draw to make it look more TNG or more Akira like as Berman directed him to do with the Enterprise E. He didn't design the NX. I am really glad he is staying on for this movie since he clearly knows all about designing Star Trek ships.

As long as we don't see anything the likes of Phase II Triangle Enterprise or nothing TNG or ENT then it's ok.

 

[Samurai8472]

I can't seem to find the article on trekmovie.com

 

[mswood]

Ptrope said:
I'm happy to see Ryan Church involved - he's got an immense imagination, and a sense of style that's well in keeping with TOS. John Eaves, though a good artist, is, unfortunately, not the most innovative of Trek designers, and I'd prefer not to see his hand in this. Sure, we want to see a thoroughly-recognizable Enterprise, but John's far too stuck in TNG, as evidenced by the final product in ENT - even if he didn't design it, his designs we've seen were The Same Old TNG stuff that led to a turnaround and Akiraprise. "One Trick Pony" comes to mind.

If nothing else, Ryan Church ensures we'll have some dramatic and beautiful production artwork, hopefully that we can buy shortly after the film comes out .

Well Eaves might serve a valuable purpose, if you feel his designs are too stuck in Modern Trek.

Spoiler: Whats the time frame

After all if Spock is older, then it is possible that the movie features Spock in the 24th century, perhaps even where we last saw him, on Romulus. And having someone familiar with the design work of the 24th century might be nice.

 

[USS Mariner]

Ptrope said:
I'm happy to see Ryan Church involved - he's got an immense imagination, and a sense of style that's well in keeping with TOS. John Eaves, though a good artist, is, unfortunately, not the most innovative of Trek designers, and I'd prefer not to see his hand in this. Sure, we want to see a thoroughly-recognizable Enterprise, but John's far too stuck in TNG, as evidenced by the final product in ENT - even if he didn't design it, his designs we've seen were The Same Old TNG stuff that led to a turnaround and Akiraprise. "One Trick Pony" comes to mind.

If nothing else, Ryan Church ensures we'll have some dramatic and beautiful production artwork, hopefully that we can buy shortly after the film comes out .

Ryan's work shows an rather firm grasp of mechanical design (at the very least: he's good at making it look that way,) as well as still being sensibly artistic.

Hey, anyone who shares some traits with Andy is fine in my book. :thumbup

 

[SeerSGB]

I really like Church's work, I think his "Crystal ship" has a very Tholianish feel to it



As for Eaves...no, no, no, a 1000 times no. I was hoping they'd invent Rick Sternbach or Andy Probert back, not Eaves. Eaves is my least favorite of the Trek designers over the years.