Spoilers John de Lancie confirms that shooting for seasons two *and* three is underway

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

I mean, to some extent this is inevitable when you're writing a "serialized" drama without any sort of source material like a series of books. But Discovery in particular (too early to know for sure with Picard) seems to have said with every season "never mind what we did before, here's something entirely new!"

As many flaws as the first season of Discovery had, I would have preferred a continuation of Season 1's plots and themes. Not ending the Klingon War abruptly at the end of the season and letting it drag into the next would make the arc have a much better conclusion for example.

I feel you, totally do. I love continuity between seasons and the feeling that it is one show versus three smaller shows...but then I wasn't a huge fan of season 1 and the war in general and season 2's premiere soft reboot was pretty damn great for me. Then by the time season 3 came around and showed us all these new shiny things...this is where I'm finally like okay at least stay in the general vicinity here for now. I'm hoping that the end of season 3 wasn't as tidy as we would like to think, and there is more to season 4 than just the big bad anomaly for a whole season. I'd like to think that themes and stories started in season 3 will show up again in season 4, so its fine if the 'big bad' is not something that is spread out across multiple seasons. There's the mystery music that no one talked about after the first couple episodes, we still have Adira and Grey to expand on, and I'd really like to see Adira and Vance interacting finally. Each season might be a drastically different surface story, but we still have all the character stuff to link together these seasons, and DSC has delivered some good character drama.

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

I mean, to some extent this is inevitable when you're writing a "serialized" drama without any sort of source material like a series of books. But Discovery in particular (too early to know for sure with Picard) seems to have said with every season "never mind what we did before, here's something entirely new!"

As many flaws as the first season of Discovery had, I would have preferred a continuation of Season 1's plots and themes. Not ending the Klingon War abruptly at the end of the season and letting it drag into the next would make the arc have a much better conclusion for example.

Agreed, but you don't need a cliffhanger/ a half-season at the end of the season to make that work when the writing is good. And seeing that they didn't exactly stick the landing in s1, and left a lot of ideas/ plotlines hanging, I'd rather they concentrate on telling one arc per season, if that makes sense.

 

[KennyB]

I hope we're getting two different stories, rather than one long season story with a break. Fingers crossed for a Young Picard casting announcement soon and some Stargazer flashbacks!

(And a whole spin-off, if he's any good)

You may be on to something if their chairs mean anything...............

 

[F. King Daniel]

You may be on to something if their chairs mean anything...............
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Looks like she's gotten a Discovery-style reimagining. Still 4 nacelles, but now a Miranda-style hull rear, Discovery-style nacelles more widely spaced out and a flatter saucer.

That's if she is the Stargazer, it could always be an even younger Picard on the USS Reliant.

 

[KennyB]

Looks like she's gotten a Discovery-style reimagining. Still 4 nacelles, but now a Miranda-style hull rear, Discovery-style nacelles more widely spaced out and a flatter saucer.

That's if she is the Stargazer, it could always be an even younger Picard on the USS Reliant.

Could be or someone just grabbed a 4 nacelle ship for the chair because VFX were not done yet. When we were filming MIB International we made crew shirts and caps with the old MIB logo.......it was 2 years before finals logos were done. ;-)

 

[Danlav05]

And I continue to hope that Levar and Gates were throwing us off and they are finally and totally in season 3.

And Michael Dorn

 

[StarMan]

I hope the reverse. I'm getting sick to death of the Discovery/Picard format of "episodic seasons." If a show is going to go serialized, I want consequences to last across the entirety of the series, not to have an effective reset button pushed with the beginning of each new season.

I agree. To my mind, writing in an "episodic season" format would be the easiest. You don't need to strain over 12 distinct stand-alone episodes, but you needn't expend creative energy in mapping out an overarching creative vision for the series.

Come up with a mystery box tease and a vague idea how it concludes (one would hope), then unpack across the season. Work some character beats in amongst it and hey presto - a new season of Trek off the production line.

 

[Tuskin38]

Looks like she's gotten a Discovery-style reimagining. Still 4 nacelles, but now a Miranda-style hull rear, Discovery-style nacelles more widely spaced out and a flatter saucer.

That's if she is the Stargazer, it could always be an even younger Picard on the USS Reliant.

If it is the stargazer, I don’t think it’s a full retcon, as we see the stargazer model unaltered in season 1 and in a season 2 teaser. It’s probably from an alternate reality is my guess.

Or what Kenny said

 

[WarpFactorZ]

The Stargazer always made me hungry for Chicago deep dish pizza...

 

[mdtauk]

With the imagery of Picard in that portrait, its possibly the Stargazer we see is the alternate history, which could explain some of the changes to it's design?

 

[Tuskin38]

To fit a more aggressive starfleet, yeah

 

[mdtauk]

To fit a more aggressive starfleet, yeah

I'd like it to not be the Mirror Universe, or the Kelvin Timeline.

 

[fireproof78]

I'd like it to not be the Mirror Universe, or the Kelvin Timeline.

It probably won't be, since it has to be "fixed" if Q is accurate.

 

[Tuskin38]

I'd like it to not be the Mirror Universe, or the Kelvin Timeline.

It's neither. It's an altered prime timeline.

 

[ichab]

I recently completed a TNG rewatch. Most of his appearances seem forced, Tapestry might be the the only one that is needed between EAF and AGT.

Don't forget Q Who.

But I mostly agree. It got to the point that I would eye roll whenever Q or Lwaxana would pop in, particularly on the non TNG shows.