JMS tosses Forbidden Planet Script

[mandragora]

^^I think it's a distinct possibility.

About what I've read, I thought it was horribly unoriginal, nothing but rehashed ideas I'd seen, read or heard at least a dozen times before. And the re-interpretation of Alta in part II and III sounded like a really stupid idea, bound to offend fans of the original, to me.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I think people inside studios actually officially leak shit scripts so that the writers will get pissed off and at least redo parts of it.

It's rarely that difficult to get rid of a writer.

I thought jms's prequel idea sounded pretty clever, particularly it articulated with the original film.

 

[dru]

The most famous was the terrible idea of Jurassic Park 4 with human trained dinosaurs. That script was real and once it was leaked, and bashed by everyone, the whole thing was thrown out.

If only that had happened when the Nemesis script was leaked...

 

[CaptJimboJones]

About what I've read, I thought it was horribly unoriginal, nothing but rehashed ideas I'd seen, read or heard at least a dozen times before.

Sort of like his pitch to reboot Star Trek, which was an astonishingly amateur collection of tired old sci-fi cliches. Makes you wonder if the guy lost his mojo after B5.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

The most famous was the terrible idea of Jurassic Park 4 with human trained dinosaurs. That script was real and once it was leaked, and bashed by everyone, the whole thing was thrown out.

If only that had happened when the Nemesis script was leaked...

You think they had a better one lying around? I doubt it.

 

[Gepard]

You think they had a better one lying around? I doubt it.

Please. They could have filmed the actors clowning around on set for two hours sans script and still come up with a better film than Nemesis.

 

[hyzmarca]

That said, I watched Changeling last weekend and I actually rather liked it, and I didn't expect much going in.

Changeling is an odd movie. The acting is generally good, it looks good, there are a lot of good scenes, but as a whole, it doesn't really have any structure, and it doesn't know what it's building to. You think the story's as resolved as it can get, then a new plot point is introduced, and that has to get resolved, and then another new plot point is introduced, and that has to get resolved, and it keeps happening, over and over, and by the time the movie finishes there have been so many false endings I found myself thinking, what, that's it? This could have been over half an hour ago. Or at least structured in such a way that the end really feels like the payoff for everything that's happened.

Changling was limited by the fact that it actually happened. JMS stayed true to the actual events, as detailed in newspapers and court transcripts, taking creative liberties with the character-developing scenes but leaving the plot unchanged from reality.

Complaining about the way Changling's plot threads are introduced is sort of like when I complained that Tom Cruise didn't kill Hitler in Valkyrie. It could have been a better movie if done differently, but it wouldn't have been historically accurate. And they were going for historical accuracy.

 

[Messianni]

You think they had a better one lying around? I doubt it.

Please. They could have filmed the actors clowning around on set for two hours sans script and still come up with a better film than Nemesis.

They would've had my $7.

 

[Steve Roby]

Changling was limited by the fact that it actually happened. JMS stayed true to the actual events, as detailed in newspapers and court transcripts, taking creative liberties with the character-developing scenes but leaving the plot unchanged from reality.

Well, except for not-so-minor details like the existence of Sarah Louise Northcott, Gordon Northcott's mother, who was involved in his crimes, confessed to murdering Walter Collins before recanting her story, and served twelve years in prison for Walter Collins' murder. (See here for more.)

It's a movie, not a documentary, and it does make changes to the historical record. So it wouldn't hurt for it to be structured a bit more like a movie.

 

[sidious618]

I love Joe but, yeah, this is over the top.

 

[MANT!]

If the script was ANY good..they wouldn't have been pissed..after all George Lucas (May his flanneled name live forever) PUBLISHED his entire script for Star Wars about 6 months before the movie was released in order to create a positive buzz for his "little space adventure".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_From_the_Adventures_of_Luke_Skywalker


What a pansy..