Hey, now! He is not a loser. He's a greedy bastard. Get it right.
JMS tosses Forbidden Planet Script
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Hey, now! He is not a loser. He's a greedy bastard. Get it right.
I have a lot of respect for JMS, I really do, but sheesh, he can be such a drama queen sometimes. Grow the fuck up, Joe, and just be happy that you're making a good living writing sci-fi movies. Most people would kill to be in your position.
Instead he has temper tantrums about Internet leaks which, I guarantee you, will have no affect whatsoever on the performance of the movie. Hell, studios deliberately leak things to whores like Harry Knowles all the time to try to create a positive buzz about projects.
Instead he has temper tantrums about Internet leaks which, I guarantee you, will have no affect whatsoever on the performance of the movie. Hell, studios deliberately leak things to whores like Harry Knowles all the time to try to create a positive buzz about projects.
It's a remake of an old movie which was a reworking of a Shakespeare play, how much can they give away?
Morbius: "Surely, the monster can be stopped!"
Adams: "Nothing can stop it... and don't call me Shirley."
I agree to an extent, in regards to SOME lost earnings. However, piracy has been rampant for decades. VCRs, audio cassette recorders.... and now you have cdrs, dvdrs, dvrs..... made by the very corps who piss and moan about illegal dl'n in the first place. All of these things are made with one thing in mind: piracy of some form. If it wasn't so, these forms of blank media would simply not be made.
So, if there is any drama to be spewed, throw it at the corps. it is 100% there fault. Don't blame the consumers for buying what the corps put out there, and using the products for what they were designed for. Direct the anger at the big corps, who pay outlandish figures to crap actors, when that money should be going to the peeps on the low end of the totem pole. Greed in the entertainment industry is 99% to blame for any lost "residuals" which JMS loves to scream about. He needs to get off the high horse and not slap away the hand that feeds.
Amen. Internet pirates are fucksticks and criminals. If you enjoy someone's work, you owe them money. Mind you, the above poster is right in the greed displayed by the corps, absolutely. But that doesn't give anyone the right to engage in theft.
Of course. They *made* you steal. There's no such thing as personal responsibility anymore. Perfectly obvious to any rational person.
Jan
More likely scenario:
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WB execs actually read it; saw it was utter crap and canned it. But, of course, JMS and his HUGE OVERBLOWN EGO can't admit the real reason because that would be heresy to his Church of Joe faithful.
At this point, I'm amazed studios still let JMS pitch anything. What's next a He Man and the Masters of the Universe revival? (Hey, it's where he got his writing start; and where he first came at odds with a studio because he could accept that Fimation and Mattel were just doing the show to sell the toy line; and weren't really interested in developing the characters.
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Wow. Somebody out there actually remembers Mike Hodel's Hour 25? I loved it, tuned in every Friday night (even though I did find JMS to be a bit of a grump). Warren James and Steve Barnes did a great job carrying the show forward after Mike passed away. Good times.
Changeling is an odd movie. The acting is generally good, it looks good, there are a lot of good scenes, but as a whole, it doesn't really have any structure, and it doesn't know what it's building to. You think the story's as resolved as it can get, then a new plot point is introduced, and that has to get resolved, and then another new plot point is introduced, and that has to get resolved, and it keeps happening, over and over, and by the time the movie finishes there have been so many false endings I found myself thinking, what, that's it? This could have been over half an hour ago. Or at least structured in such a way that the end really feels like the payoff for everything that's happened.
As far as Forbidden Planet is concerned... it's a remake. We know the story already. The only reason to be hypervigilant about spoilers is if you're not planning to be faithful to the original. And if you're not, why bother doing a remake in the first place?
Of course. They *made* you steal. There's no such thing as personal responsibility anymore. Perfectly obvious to any rational person.
Jan
You can't play both sides and then whine someone takes advantage in return. Thems the rules. Don't like it. Don't play. JMS knows this, and should deal with it instead of being emo. Not everything he writes is worthy of being paid for, and this coming from someone who bought all the script books. Everyone lays an egg here and there. Little baby should deal with it instead of alienating his fanbase.
I agree with you about downloading. Not right, not cool.
However...
Have there been any shows that were on the bubble that DVD sales would have saved? Maybe Family Guy and Futurama. Which ones didn't because of illegal downloading? Are there any numbers to support this idea? And does a network, unless they are producing it, rather licensing it, make any money from DVD sales? Wouldn't they make more money from ad revenue?
While I think illegal downloading is...well, it's illegal, I do wonder what the actual impact is.
However...
Have there been any shows that were on the bubble that DVD sales would have saved? Maybe Family Guy and Futurama. Which ones didn't because of illegal downloading? Are there any numbers to support this idea? And does a network, unless they are producing it, rather licensing it, make any money from DVD sales? Wouldn't they make more money from ad revenue?
While I think illegal downloading is...well, it's illegal, I do wonder what the actual impact is.
So you're saying that there's no legitimate uses for recordable media? Nobody'd ever want to back up files or make the legal back-up copy of their legally purchased CDs/DVDs/Programs. Got it. You should have explained that from the beginning.
Of course. They *made* you steal. There's no such thing as personal responsibility anymore. Perfectly obvious to any rational person.
Jan
You can't play both sides and then whine someone takes advantage in return. Thems the rules. Don't like it. Don't play.
Jan
I, for one, am glad they are starting over. I saw the leaked pieces and reviews on IESB - and wasn't impressed. At all.
I think people inside studios actually officially leak shit scripts so that the writers will get pissed off and at least redo parts of it.
The most famous was the terrible idea of Jurassic Park 4 with human trained dinosaurs. That script was real and once it was leaked, and bashed by everyone, the whole thing was thrown out.
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