JMS SilverSurfer dead, thanks to FF2 flop
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Norrin Radd
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Call me biased if you will, but I think the Silver Surfer was the best thing about an otherwise lacklustre FF sequel. If anything, that film needed more cosmic grandeur, more gravitas...more of what the character provided.
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Actually, from what I've heard, DHP won't be voicing Abe in HBII:The Golden Army and instead Doug Jones will be providing the voice for Abe as he did in the Animated movies.
*Crosses Fingers.
I said it earlier, the Surfer has a great look but he's boring as hell. Too esoteric with his "power cosmic" shit.
You know, Superman isn't really a character people can relate when you think about because he's an alien that's virtually unstoppable. But what about Surfer? He's an alien who can't even blend in with a crowd of humans.
You know, Superman isn't really a character people can relate when you think about because he's an alien that's virtually unstoppable. But what about Surfer? He's an alien who can't even blend in with a crowd of humans.
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Stone_Cold_Sisko
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Yeah, the Fantastic Four movie franchise has a way of doing that... every character invariably becomes incredibly lame once they are done with it... Dr Doom, Galactus, the Surfer 
Yeah, as we get into the more obscure and less straight-forward properties I think they require more vision to bring to the screen. They don't lend themselves to an easy pedestrian summer event movie approach. Of course, even the comics themselves aren't immune to this as new runs often miss the boat with these characters as well.
I know that, but the average person doesn't.
I meant that they could use a more well known actor (and that person's voice) instead of an unknown Fishburne's voice in order for the audiences to relate to him as a person. They may wish to show Norrin Radd before he became a Herald, and/or they may chose to show him using his powers of illusion to look like an average human at some point in a movie (again, for the audience to relate to him as more than just a hunk of shiny stuff).
Silver Surfer has a similar problem to Superman, he's so powerful you need to either put him up against a tremendously powerful enemy (or a very large number of enemies), or have him go through a period of character growth or personal stress in order to show him in conflict (like during his origin story).
Luke Lightsaber
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Silver Surfer would be great in Iron Man 2
Wha?
What purpose would he serve, other than to maybe pop up in Tony Stark's hallucinations when he's drunk.
Stark sees a Silver Surfer instead of a Green Fairy. 
Wha?
I think he just made a funneh.
Luke Lightsaber
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Maybe Surfer would see Iron Man flying around, and Sufer being curious would tail Stark and try and find out more about this guy who flies around in a suit? Could be cool.
I like this idea. As long as they get Alexis Denisof as Reed. And bring in a decent director this time.
I haven't seen FF2, but saw the first one on DVD and quite enjoyed it - probably because I had low expectations. I think had it been released 10 years ago, it would have been a lot better received, but coming after the likes of Batman Begins, X-Men 2 and Spider-man, it was just okay. Can't understand why Marvel agreed to one of their prestige names being directed by a mediocre director like Tim Story, while Doc Doom, one of their all time great villains, was watered down and given The Green Goblin's backstory. And I like Julian McMahon, but DD he was not.
Hopefully if they make a 3rd one, they'll learn from the success of Iron Man and Hulk; even if they don't go for a name director, they'll get someone who really cares about the source material and casts the movie right.
Seems awfully unfair to blame poor SS for the fact that FF has been crippled by wild miscasting from the start. Chris Evans and Michael Chiklis are okay but the rest - gah!
Still it's hard to envision SS ever working well in your average summer blockbuster popcorn fest.
Still it's hard to envision SS ever working well in your average summer blockbuster popcorn fest.
Unless they would do it animated there is no point in doing a Silver Surfer movie. To be honest Surfer is too deep for the average person to understand. Galactus destroys planets but is not evil. The Surfer is good yet bring Galactus to planets to be destroyed. Average person is not going to get that at all. With posters saying he has a board but no water and no penis then you can bet the average person can't understand. To be honest I don't understand why they even put him in the FF movie, especially the way it was done. Very bad idea along with casting Alba as Sue. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
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Avilos
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The Incredible Hulk was not very successful. I think it will be a lesson to both Warner/DC and Marvel not to do quickie reboots.