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JLA: Crisis on Two Earths.

City of Heroes MMO has a very dynamic costume creator that has seen a lot of improvements over the years. I like it. I used to create new heroes to play just because I wanted to try the costume sets (e.g., cyborg, ninja, samurai, etc.).

Don't you have to subscribe to the game to access that?
 
Yeah, but it doesn't even look like an S.

It's highly stylized, sure, but you can still tell that it's rooted in Superman's emblem:

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/dcanimated/images/b/b6/Supesmodelbb.gif

Besides, keep in mind that in-universe, Superman's shield isn't an S. It's a Kryptonian symbol that coincidentally resembles the letter S inside an irregular pentagon. The future Superman's emblem could simply be that same Kryptonian symbol in another "font."
 
Wasn't the symbol of House El said to be the "empty" spaces in the symbol rather than the actual S (in other words, the yellow portions rather than the red), with the S just being a strange coincidence? If so, the new symbol makes a lot more sense, too, since it emphasizes the empty spaces.
 
Wasn't the symbol of House El said to be the "empty" spaces in the symbol rather than the actual S (in other words, the yellow portions rather than the red), with the S just being a strange coincidence? If so, the new symbol makes a lot more sense, too, since it emphasizes the empty spaces.

I recall John Byrne saying that's what he thought the symbol was when he was a kid - a bunch of abstract yellow shapes in a red pentagon. Maybe some Superman comic mentioned something similar in-story, but it was never specified in the DCAU continuity.
 
I preferred the Justice Lords from the Justic League cartoon, although, of course, they were based on the CSA of years gone by.

Not really.

The Justice Lords were flat out copies of the "real" JLA, same names, backgrounds, and all, but they'd chosen an unwise path.

The CSA has always been a twisted version of the characters, with different names, backgrounds, etc.
 
I would be interested to see a compiled "chronology" of the DCU based on actual comics and TPBs (in other words, not counting DCAU). I have this massive DC Encyclopedia at home, which isn't very up-to-date, considering there's a new edition that covers events from "Identity Crisis" to "Infinite Crisis" and "52."
 
I watched this and enjoyed it a lot. I appreciate the willingness of the producers and writers to deviate from the continuities established in other mediums when they do these kind of movies, as they did in the Green Lantern "origin" movie.

The opening credits alone were worth the price on this one. Batman's subterfuge at the climax was suitably disturbed. As an old guy I'd kind of like brief backstories on the villainous versions of Supes, Green Lantern, etc but dispensing with all of that really does make sense in this kind of show. And I'm always looking for more Green Lantern than we get in most of these movies. ;)
 
I watched this and enjoyed it a lot. I appreciate the willingness of the producers and writers to deviate from the continuities established in other mediums when they do these kind of movies, as they did in the Green Lantern "origin" movie.

The opening credits alone were worth the price on this one. Batman's subterfuge at the climax was suitably disturbed. As an old guy I'd kind of like brief backstories on the villainous versions of Supes, Green Lantern, etc but dispensing with all of that really does make sense in this kind of show. And I'm always looking for more Green Lantern than we get in most of these movies. ;)

Great review Dennis, and I totally agree. GL is my son's favorite hero, so anything with GL in it, especially Hal Jordan, is going to win him over...

Rob
 
Lastly I realize that this a cartoon aimed at children...

No, it isn't. The DVD movies are specifically made to be PG-13, targeted at an older demographic than WB's television animation.

lol That was the most interesting point you could find in my review to comment on? I feel bad now... Anyway teenagers last time I checked where kids. In hindsight perhaps the youth or adolescents would have been a better word choice. Despite the fact I am in latter half of my twenties I don't foresee a lot of 30 plus year olds picking this up for themselves. Especially 30 plus year olds ones that don't live in their parents basements.

So let me guess.

Your one of those nitwits who think once you reach a certain age you should become boring ,and just wait for the grave?

I'm in my 30's...and shockingly enough no basement. :eek:
 
No, it isn't. The DVD movies are specifically made to be PG-13, targeted at an older demographic than WB's television animation.

lol That was the most interesting point you could find in my review to comment on? I feel bad now... Anyway teenagers last time I checked where kids. In hindsight perhaps the youth or adolescents would have been a better word choice. Despite the fact I am in latter half of my twenties I don't foresee a lot of 30 plus year olds picking this up for themselves. Especially 30 plus year olds ones that don't live in their parents basements.

So let me guess.

Your one of those nitwits who think once you reach a certain age you should become boring ,and just wait for the grave?

I'm in my 30's...and shockingly enough no basement. :eek:

Ignore him. He's JAFM (Just Another Frakking "Modernist"). Spawn and Watchmen are the benchmarks of "proper" superhero writing and presentation to JAFMs. They don't realize the importance of All Ages writing to ensuring the continuation of the superhero form.
 
No, it isn't. The DVD movies are specifically made to be PG-13, targeted at an older demographic than WB's television animation.

lol That was the most interesting point you could find in my review to comment on? I feel bad now... Anyway teenagers last time I checked where kids. In hindsight perhaps the youth or adolescents would have been a better word choice. Despite the fact I am in latter half of my twenties I don't foresee a lot of 30 plus year olds picking this up for themselves. Especially 30 plus year olds ones that don't live in their parents basements.

So let me guess.

Your one of those nitwits who think once you reach a certain age you should become boring ,and just wait for the grave?

I'm in my 30's...and shockingly enough no basement. :eek:

Was that directed at me? The 30 year old basement joke was just that a joke. Albeit one with a lot of truth to it.

With the admission that I will be one of these people in less than 4 years isn't thirty a little old to be watching cartoons.

P.S. I do realize there is a defference between animated shoes and cartoons....
 
With the admission that I will be one of these people in less than 4 years isn't thirty a little old to be watching cartoons.

Why should it be? Isn't the whole point of being an adult that you're free to watch, read, or listen to whatever you want? If you still like cartoons, why the heck should you stop watching them?

There's no reason to assume that cartoons are automatically meant for children. That's a stereotype. Animation is a medium, not a genre. And even if we are talking specifically about shows made to be suitable for children, it's a myth that such shows are unsuitable for adults. Some of them are, the weaker and dumber stuff. But there's plenty of weak and dumb stuff aimed at adults too. Besides, don't our children deserve the highest quality of material that we're capable of giving them? And isn't quality storytelling worth watching no matter your age? Good children's stories are good stories, period. An episode of Avatar: The Last Airbender or The Spectacular Spider-Man is a thousand times smarter and more sophisticated than any of the dozens of sleazy, cheap, mindless reality shows that have the gall to call themselves "adult" programming.

Not to mention that most people who make children's programming are making it for themselves too, so that the experience will be enjoyable for them. Also they're making it for the parents who will ideally be watching along with their children.

P.S. I do realize there is a defference between animated shoes and cartoons....

No, there isn't. A cartoon is a representational drawing. An animated cartoon is a series of such drawings simulating movement. The difference between "cartoon" and "animated show" is like the difference between "comic book" and "graphic novel" or "stewardess" and "flight attendant." They mean exactly the same thing, but one is an attempt to avoid the perceived stigma attached to the other.
 
With the admission that I will be one of these people in less than 4 years isn't thirty a little old to be watching cartoons.

Why should it be? Isn't the whole point of being an adult that you're free to watch, read, or listen to whatever you want? If you still like cartoons, why the heck should you stop watching them?

There's no reason to assume that cartoons are automatically meant for children. That's a stereotype. Animation is a medium, not a genre. And even if we are talking specifically about shows made to be suitable for children, it's a myth that such shows are unsuitable for adults. Some of them are, the weaker and dumber stuff. But there's plenty of weak and dumb stuff aimed at adults too. Besides, don't our children deserve the highest quality of material that we're capable of giving them? And isn't quality storytelling worth watching no matter your age? Good children's stories are good stories, period. An episode of Avatar: The Last Airbender or The Spectacular Spider-Man is a thousand times smarter and more sophisticated than any of the dozens of sleazy, cheap, mindless reality shows that have the gall to call themselves "adult" programming.

Not to mention that most people who make children's programming are making it for themselves too, so that the experience will be enjoyable for them. Also they're making it for the parents who will ideally be watching along with their children.

P.S. I do realize there is a defference between animated shoes and cartoons....

No, there isn't. A cartoon is a representational drawing. An animated cartoon is a series of such drawings simulating movement. The difference between "cartoon" and "animated show" is like the difference between "comic book" and "graphic novel" or "stewardess" and "flight attendant." They mean exactly the same thing, but one is an attempt to avoid the perceived stigma attached to the other.

We have our differences of opinion, Christopher, but you're pretty much spot on with this.

The only thing you didn't mention is the fact that animation right from it's first big blossoming in the 30s and 40s, has ALWAYS had a strong all-ages basis. Anyone that thinks otherwise has never really stopped to think about the classic Warner Bros and MGM shorts in their entirety.
 
^Indeed. There were a lot of risque cartoons in the '30s and '40s. Lots of sexual innuendo in the early Betty Boop cartoons. Heck, in the first Popeye cartoon, Betty did a cameo as a hula dancer wearing nothing but a lei and a grass skirt. And then there were Tex Avery's racy cartoons for MGM, "Red Hot Riding Hood" and others featuring the same character (the inspiration for Jessica Rabbit) under different names. It wasn't until Disney decided to focus exclusively on making "family" animation that the cartoons = kid stuff stereotype began to form.
 
^And that's just the "fringe", really. I mean, check out the average Bugs Bunny cartoon of the age. There is a WHOLE lot of adult stuff going on in that writing.
 
Not to mention that the best kids' cartoons have always had material for adults in them. For instance, Rocky and Bullwinkle had tons of cultural and political humor that would've flown right over the kids' heads.
 
Food for thought.

I have a fiance who thought Star Trek The Original Series was a kids show before we sat down to watch it.

Misconceptions can be everywhere.
 
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