JJ Abrams should thow us a bone!
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I did wonder whether his answer simply reflected Nimoy's presence in the film, but then I did specifically mention Enterprise. To be honest, if it's just an NX model sitting on an Academy Instuctor's desk, I'll be over the moon. Models of the International Space Station and a Daedalus class ship in Sisko's DS9 office come to mind. That kind of thing is usually an after thought by the prop department and don't figure in the mind of a scriptwriter though. Could a reply like this from Roberto Orci indicate something more planned?
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I wouldn't mind some reference to previous successful or unsuccessful attempts at hybrid offspring. Since Spock was the only hybrid we were introduced to in TOS (?) yet by TNG/DS9 they were plentiful, presumably in Spock's time, it was still a rare enough thing to cause comment. Naming Lorien and Elizabeth are probably not necessary, just some reference to what was probably a lot of largely tragic attempts before Spock was born - and probably after, too.
Maybe it could be couched in terms of Spock's parents wanting to have more children, but after they lucked out once, that was it.
...and didn't this used to be in Trek XI?
Maybe it could be couched in terms of Spock's parents wanting to have more children, but after they lucked out once, that was it.
...and didn't this used to be in Trek XI?
Naming Elizabeth might be more appropriate than Lorien, since he was Alternate reality.
Personally I think we will probably see a small model of the enterprise NX01 somewhere or a picture of Archer up on the wall in Starfleet Headquarters. Trip did mention in rogue Planet that they had them hanging there.
Even if we get a small bone like this, It's still not enough for me to want to see the movie or even buy the DVD. It just looks more and more like a reboot to the franchise, which I don't think it needed.
Bingo! Trip did indeed take a photo of Archer, so that Starfleet could make a portrait from it to hang at Starfleet. Perhaps something like that will be seen? The others in the gallery alongside it would probably be 'insider jokes', maybe likenesses of Gene Roddenberry, Gene L. Coon and Michael Piller. These kind of things on the whole go unnoticed, unless you're looking for it. The rest of the audience just won't be paying attention the background, they'll be too busy drooling over Chris Pine...
Anyone looking for either Scott Bakula or Jolene Blalock doing a cameo will probably be disappointed (and I guess you could include me in that too). In the timeframe of this movie, Archer would be so old he'd be unrecognisable. I can't frankly see Scott agreeing to several hours in make-up, being incased in latex for a minute onscreen. I also doubt T'Pol will appear, it might undermine Quinto's Spock being a unique or minority Vulcan at the Academy.
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Re: JJ Abrams should throw us a bone!
Have Archer appear at the Enterprise's launch, older and confined a chair like crippled Pike had in TOS. (Have Pike say something like "I could never live like that.")
*beep* *beep*
Have someone mention the failure of the NX class ships.
Have scene where a drunken Scotty actually pisses on Tucker's grave.
Have Archer appear at the Enterprise's launch, older and confined a chair like crippled Pike had in TOS. (Have Pike say something like "I could never live like that.")
*beep* *beep*
Have someone mention the failure of the NX class ships.
Have scene where a drunken Scotty actually pisses on Tucker's grave.
Yeah, because the franchise has been so healthy lately, right? After the way Nemesis and Enterprise tanked we're lucky they're making ANY Star Trek at this point.
Maybe they could name a part of the shipyard or an engineering facility after Trip. Or a classroom/hall at the Academy could bear Archer's name. T'Pol is in all likelihood still alive(about 170-180 years old by this point)so Blalock could do a quick throwaway cameo or something.
Abrams is the master of putting tiny little hints and nods to all sorts of things in his productions. Look at how Lost fans analyze every frame of every episode for various "hints" to the storyline, or the little moments in "Cloverfield" that aren't noticeable at first. So I wouldn't be shocked if we see all sorts of subtle Trek references in various spots in the film, and that certainly could include Enterprise.
What I don't think we'll see is the jarring "Look, wink wink, it's a reference to another Trek show!" type of scene that we've seen in the past. The Janeway cameo in Nemesis, for example, was just cringeworthy (Stewart practically said, "Look, it's Admiral Janeway! From Voyager! That other Star Trek TV show!")
What I don't think we'll see is the jarring "Look, wink wink, it's a reference to another Trek show!" type of scene that we've seen in the past. The Janeway cameo in Nemesis, for example, was just cringeworthy (Stewart practically said, "Look, it's Admiral Janeway! From Voyager! That other Star Trek TV show!")
I didn't really think it was that bad, in fact I kinda liked the cameo, but what really bothered me was Riker shouting "pattern KIRK epsilon" across the bridge. I just stood out as A NOD TO TOS AND KIRK YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT HE SAID KIRK DID YOU NOTICE KIRK KIRK KIRK KIRK!!!!! and took me way out of the movie.
This is a chance for a fresh start.
The movie doesn't need to mention anything specifically from the failure that was ENT.
The movie doesn't need to mention anything specifically from the failure that was ENT.
Too bad it's going to then, I guess.