Jessica Jones Season 2

[Pauln6]

I enjoyed season 2. It wasn't as compelling as season 1, the overall villain being the nature of addiction rather than a controlling abuser, but it's a great vehicle for examining social issues with a superhero veneer. Trish had some great scenes, there was a wonderfully controlled performance from Carrie-anne Moss, and the relationships of all the characters were like roller-coaster rides.

I sort of wish they had featured someone more villainous in a few episodes as a teaser for season 3 but I'm looking forward to it .

 

[Phily B]

I thought it was pretty poor overall, the character work was pretty good and I liked JJ a lot more this season than last since we now understand the character a whole lot more. But the actual plot was boring as fuck and really lacked what Tennant brought to the show as the villain.

 

[Skywalker]

Season two lacked a truly compelling villain like Kilgrave, but from a narrative standpoint I thought this season was much stronger and more cohesive than its predecessor, which clearly felt very stretched out to fill thirteen episodes. ("We caught him, again! Oops, he got away, again!" and the whole subplot with Jessica's extremely obnoxious neighbor Robyn, for example.)

I noticed you guys were talking about Whizzer and Karl Malus being from the comics. Another comics character who appeared in the show, albeit briefly, was Maynard Tiboldt, the hypnotherapist hired by Trish to help Jessica try to remember what happened to her in the hospital. In the comics he's the Ringmaster, a villain who uses hypnotic mind control. It's neat to see Marvel taking some of these little-known D-list characters and utilizing them in the shows.

 

[Turtletrekker]

That's awesome!

I miss pop-up videos. They were some of the better things to come out of the '90s.

Before I ran screaming into the night away from the MCU wiki, This would've been on-line for about an hour before there would be an article about the video accepting every little thing about it a as canonical fact that would soon be incorporated into all of the character's bios. Back-up dancer Kourtney would have had her own detailed entry. Trish's movie "Snatch and Grab" would have it's own entry. Possibly even with his own article would be the back-up dancer who dated Trish and her mom.

 

[Tuvix5675]

I just started watching this, on episode 4 and wondering where the heck is Luke? I didn't see Defenders. Jessica is so desperate she tries hooking up with her landlord and a random bar dude. Hehehehe.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I just started watching this, on episode 4 and wondering where the heck is Luke? I didn't see Defenders. Jessica is so desperate she tries hooking up with her landlord and a random bar dude. Hehehehe.

Luke is making coffee with Claire Temple.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Unsurprising but good news to have confirmed: Netflix has renewed the show for a third season.

 

[Marsden]

I made the slog and finished season 2. It wasn't so much that it was bad, it just felt like it took forever, they could have told the story in 6 episodes with some decent editing. Waiting years for Hellcat and she might actually show up next time. Ghost of Kilgrave was a highlight, I knew he was in her head but he lit up the screen unlike everyone else.

My only concern after that 13 episode eternity is: Did Foggy lose his job? That 2 minute cameo was the other highlight of the season.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I suspect Foggy is actually going with Hogarth. However, if he doesn't, he's still with Chao and Benowitz.

 

[Captain Craig]

I finally finished Jessica Jones S2. I must say that as a whole I enjoyed the character development much more this time around. Mainly cause they all showed some growth, with exception perhaps to Jessica ironically. She is in the same place she was when we first meet her in season one.

I can't decide who I'm more interested in following through season 3, Malcolm or Trish? I'm literally going to watch for those characters more so than Jessica.

I will say the writers did a good job of making Jessica feel something again once she found out her mom was alive. However, the premise requires her mom to be dead again by the finale so the ending is as anti-climatic as it can be. They did a modestly good job of having that head shot surprise you but it also wasn't hard to tell that Trish was lying to Costa about where they might be in upstate NY.

I feel the show could've used a surprise cameo by Luke or even Danny. Something that says, "oh, hey Defenders...that happened since last you saw Jessica.

I finally went and did a Wiki read on Patsy Walker Hellcat since it's clear as day where they are going. This version differs in how her power set is acquired but she is for sure a character ripe for some tweaking. I can't imagine diehard Hellcat fans (I'm sure there are a few dozen out there somewhere) having too much objection.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Just watched the first episode earlier, and stopped reading the thread where people started talking about being X episodes in...just want to say that I love what they did with the Whizzer. Not the scaffolding, but taking an obscure property with a practically unusable name and adapting him in such an irreverent manner.

 

[Marsden]

I was waiting all Efffin season for Hellcat and I have to wait even longer.

I really liked Whizzer, and they killed him.

 

[gblews]

Mainly cause they all showed some growth, with exception perhaps to Jessica ironically. She is in the same place she was when we first meet her in season one.

Strongly disagree. Jessica doesn't just stop feeling when her mother dies, she initiates a reconection with the boyfriend and ends up sitting down to a "family" dinner with him and his son. This is a huge leap forward for Jessica.

Now, her character still ends up with some flaws, it's not a total metamorphosis, but her trying to get Trish off drugs was not something we would have seen in season 1. I really liked how they developed Jessica this season.

 

[Reverend]

It's been a while since I watched this season (or at least it feels like it!) and I'm still trying to parse exactly how I feel about it.
I think I tend to agree with the sentiment that it was too many episodes with not a lot of story and could probably have benefited from either being a few episodes shorter this season, or gone more of the Daredevil season 2 route with essentially two consecutive arcs rather than what we got, which often felt a whole bunch of arcs bundled together and stretched out paper thin.

Again, I'll probably have to give this a second look to properly digest but I remember coming out of the last episode thinking "am I crazy, or was Jessica the least toxic person in her life this time around?" Yeah, I know the new neighbour/boyfriend turned out to be a healthy influence, but the two people who seemed to care about her the most from last season were just horrible to her this time around and for utterly selfish reasons.

I'm not saying they shouldn't have gone that route, just that it's interesting how they went about it. Season 2 Trish almost felt like a deconstruction of season 1 Trish; whereas before she was pretty selflessly dedicated to Jessica's well-being and only a little insecure about being in Jess's shadow (in her own mind, if not outwardly to the world) which mostly just manifested as living vicariously through her and her abilities. Season 2 Trish is like the Mr. Hyde version of her. Insecurities dialled up to 11, almost entirely self obsessed and heedless of any other consideration.
I do wonder if what we're seeing between these two is a cycle of behaviour where first one flies off the rails then the other.

I think part of the question for season 3 might be "do they help to keep each other return to the stable centre each time, or is their relationship responsible for the inability for any one of them to remain stable at any given time?"

 

[Booji]

the two people who seemed to care about her the most from last season were just horrible to her this time around and for utterly selfish reasons."

Trish acted terribly this season, but I thought Malcolm got treated like gutter trash by Jessica the entire time. I can't think of a single thing he did that was horrible to her, it's the other way around.

 

[Reverend]

Trish acted terribly this season, but I thought Malcolm got treated like gutter trash by Jessica the entire time. I can't think of a single thing he did that was horrible to her, it's the other way around.

I'll be honest, I don't remember much about Malcolm's arc this season beyond substituting his gear for serial one-nighters and basically selling out to the private security git near the end.
Still my vague impression of his interactions with Jessica early on in the season (I don't think they crossed paths much after that, or am I forgetting something major?) was one of him inserting himself into Jessica's life and business. When someone saves your life (twice!) they are not obligated to be nice to you when you decide to become their uninvited secretary/housemaid.
Yeah, Jess could have been nicer, more supportive and more welcoming to Malcolm...but that's a bed he made for himself and really has not grounds to feel he's entitled to whatever it was he seemed to expect from her. Jess didn't owe him a thing and she repeatedly reminded him where the door was.

Again, I'll need to rewatch to dial in on a more coherent opinion, but my general sense was that he was just as self centred as Trish was this season, which was similarly running directly against the grain of his character last season. I guess it didn't carry as much weight with me since there's a lot less history with him & Jess vs. Trish & Jess.

 

[Tuvix5675]

Luke is making coffee with Claire Temple.

I want to know the time frame for season 2, relative to the Defenders, is it after or before, or does it depend on the episode?

 

[jbny67]

After

 

[Tuvix5675]

Just watched the first episode earlier, and stopped reading the thread where people started talking about being X episodes in...just want to say that I love what they did with the Whizzer. Not the scaffolding, but taking an obscure property with a practically unusable name and adapting him in such an irreverent manner.

I liked the season as a whole, I'm glad they only brought Killgrave back in a limited capacity and didn't try to make the whole season about his relationship with Jessica, though I did like seeing him. I liked the exploration of Jessica's background, the mother-daughter relationship which is so rare to see in television these days. The season put a lot of the characters into a kind of grey zone morally. None of the main characters are really good and there is no overarching villain, each of the characters are their own worst villain.

 

[Snaploud]

I finally watched this season. I agree with the previous comments about Tennant being sorely missed. It would have been nice if head-Kilgrave had been in more episodes. Also, Trish went went from a 2 to a 10 on the crazy scale this season. I wonder if Hellcat will end up as a super-villain.