some parts. For me her best acting was when she wasn't doing much, when she didn't have to react to anything or bascially when she just didn't have to act much at all
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No fan of Kes likes that insulting s**t!The you'd like Fury
Bad? She wasn't bad, she was agreat actress and I think that she was magnificent in that episode.
I do get the impression that you really dislike the character and the actress.
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To each their own. I'm not a fan of herNo fan of Kes likes that insulting s**t!
Bad? She wasn't bad, she was agreat actress and I think that she was magnificent in that episode.
I do get the impression that you really dislike the character and the actress.
Stargate Universe is sort of Mirror Universe Voyager. Good premise but then everything went bad. Definitely the worst SF-series I've ever seen.
Otherwise I can't find anything vaugely similar to Voyager.
As for "Warlord", I like it better than "Before And After" because "Warlord" was exciting and Jennifer did an excellent performance. OK, Kes was weird in the episode but there was alogical explanation for that and she was restored to normal at the end of the episode.
Jennifers acting is excellent in "Before And After" too but the story is a bit too weird for my taste. Still a good episode but not among my top 5 Kes episodes.
You might like Terra Nova. Braga was one of the main creative people on it. The premise is a bit like Voyager--a sci fi world with people stranded far away from home (even a mysterious "badlands"). And the tone and feel was even more like Voyager--a likable cast of heroes; fun and adventure; science-fictional problems in episodic chunks (Terra Nova was not quite as episodic as Voyager but did a good job of building its larger story in discrete, episodic units).
Have you checked out the new Battlestar Galactica? It's darker, but has some similarities to Voyager
Just sit right back, and you'll hear a tale,
A tale of a fateful trip
That started at this deep space port
Aboard this big starship.
The mate was a spy with the Maquis.
The captain was his friend.
She took her ship to look for him
Into the Badlands (into the Badlands).
Anomalies were getting rough.
The giant ship was tossed.
Apart from an irritated hologram,
The sickbay staff was lost (the sickbay staff was lost).
The ship reemerged on the edge of the uncharted Delta Quadrant,
With Chakotay,
The captain too,
Young Harry Kim and his friend,
An engineer
And the rest,
Here in Voyager's travels.
I love the kind of woman who brings enough make-up and sequin dresses for a 3-hour tour to last a lifetime. Ginger was the only one worth watching on Gilligan's Island. It was really bad! But the song was catchy, if not corny. It gets the head to bobbing ... the toes to tapping ...
Hey guys ... thanks for all the ideas.
For me, when I say I want a show similar to VOY, the most important thing is that it's about a ship lost in space.
So far so good. Now here comes the crux of it: no dark tone, please.
I don't like StarGate Universe because even though it is about a ship lost in space, it's just too dark. I can't relate to that, I prefer a more upbeat atmosphere.
Like with DS9, I just can't really get to like that show because it's too dark. Characters are not easy to identify with in such shows for me. (Nevertheless, I much prefer it to SG-U.)
As For StarGate Universe, the main reason I hate it is that there's the main guy who is a real jerk. You find that out about him like after ten minutes and the more you watch the show, the more you feel what a big a ... he his.
I don't like that.
So does any of the series you mentioned would be to my liking, do you think?
For me, when I say I want a show similar to VOY, the most important thing is that it's about a ship lost in space.
So far so good. Now here comes the crux of it: no dark tone, please.
I don't like StarGate Universe because even though it is about a ship lost in space, it's just too dark. I can't relate to that, I prefer a more upbeat atmosphere.
Like with DS9, I just can't really get to like that show because it's too dark. Characters are not easy to identify with in such shows for me. (Nevertheless, I much prefer it to SG-U.)
As For StarGate Universe, the main reason I hate it is that there's the main guy who is a real jerk. You find that out about him like after ten minutes and the more you watch the show, the more you feel what a big a ... he his.
I don't like that.
So does any of the series you mentioned would be to my liking, do you think?
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Very clever KelisThePoet.
Now, this is the story of the voyagers.
They’re lost for a long, long time.
Like moving through a jeffreys tube,
It’s an uphill climb.
The first mate and the captain too
Will do their very best
To guide their merged crews safely through
The Delta Quadrant mess.
The replicator’s rationed now;
Not a single luxury!
Like Kirk and Spock’s first voyages,
It’s primitive as can be.
So join us who knows where each week
And see how things unravel,
For seven stranded years of fun,
Here in Voyager’s travels.
They’re lost for a long, long time.
Like moving through a jeffreys tube,
It’s an uphill climb.
The first mate and the captain too
Will do their very best
To guide their merged crews safely through
The Delta Quadrant mess.
The replicator’s rationed now;
Not a single luxury!
Like Kirk and Spock’s first voyages,
It’s primitive as can be.
So join us who knows where each week
And see how things unravel,
For seven stranded years of fun,
Here in Voyager’s travels.
Omg yes, I agree wholeheartedly. For the majority of any episode she's stiff-as-a-board, face fixed in a neutral glaze, and delivers her lines with a monotone (but admittedly velvety) voice. A somewhat tolerable situation.
But lord have mercy! and sweet baby jesus! In Warlord, it was like watching Keanu Reeves in Johnny Mneumonic...so painful, so utterly difficult to watch. Awkward, overdone, irritating. It took everything in me to finish the episode.
And then Fury came along...
Nonetheless, good luck to her in court and I hope she gets the help she needs.
Almost as bad as "Stargate Universe". Doom, gloom and boring characters. I almost cheered for the Cylons.
I see the exact opposite.
A talented actress portraying a very interesting character, one of Star Trek's best. She did so in the best possible ways, really giving life to the character.
"Warlord" showed a different Kes but Lien managed that too. Excellent performance in one of Voyager's best episode.
And pleas don't involve Jesus in your putting-down of other people you don't even know.
Farscape. Can be a bit grim dark, but is so upbeat and damned funny the rest of the time. Granted it's just one guy slung to the other side of the universe, rather than a whole ship, but since you like Tom Paris, John Crichton should appeal. Especially if you ever read the John Crter books.
I'm almost shocked at Jennifer Lien's acting chops being so harshly critiqued, in this thread! Even Kate Mulgrew - OK? - your beloved KATE considered Jennifer to be a FINE actress - an assessment with which I find myself in complete agreement. I suspect that, for some, Lien's voice might sound consistently sultry, if you like, so there's this impression of it being monotone, but that's not the case, at all. She's not talking like HAL from 2001, she's simply soft-spoken - her voice is very pleasing. It's quite fetching, like the rest of her ...
It's an opinion. I find her voice quite irritating
The funny thing is I thought the best performance she ever gave, which in my opinion isn't saying much, was in Fury
We all have different opinions about acting skills and who or what is good or bad. For instance...I thought Tom's speech to a dying B'Elanna in Course Oblivion was rather touching but I ran across someone who thought it was so badly acted he laughed at it. By the same token, there is a DS9 episode (can't remember the title but it's the one where the original Kai dies on that 'deathless' world) and Kira starts crying over her body. To me that particular scene was laughable...I thought she was overacting but all my friends thought it was...touching.
I didn't think Lien was the best actress ever but I did think that for the most part she gave the directors what they wanted and did well enough in the role.
I didn't think Lien was the best actress ever but I did think that for the most part she gave the directors what they wanted and did well enough in the role.
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