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Spoilers Jean-Luc Picard's History

Which Picard history/future do you prefer?

  • All Good Things Timeline - Admiral Picard divorced from Beverly, Troi gone, Riker Admiral

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yesterday's Enterprise Timeline - War with the Klingons and Tasha alive

    Votes: 1 3.3%
  • The Litverse Timeline - Picard as father of a little son, married to Beverly, still a Captain

    Votes: 5 16.7%
  • Star Trek - Picard Timeline - gone from Starfleet, facing crisises, still trying to save people

    Votes: 16 53.3%
  • None - They should have left Picard's fate alone after Nemesis

    Votes: 3 10.0%
  • Other Picard future option

    Votes: 5 16.7%

  • Total voters
    30
I think Guinan only had an echo because she was beamed out by the Enterprise-B. Since Picard and Kirk weren't, they don't have them.

On that same reasoning, there should be an echo of Soran in there, too. Maybe in that way, those two people, and everyone else who was beamed onto the Enterprise-B, are essentially immortal because a piece of them is forever roaming throughout space.
 
They could easily do a STARGAZER spinoff

The trouble is they’d have to discofy it and thereby confirm that if Stargazer doesn’t, then not even TNG looks the way we expect it to. I mean, it’s not like 21st-century audiences could swallow the Star Trek VI look.
 
The trouble is they’d have to discofy it and thereby confirm that if Stargazer doesn’t, then not even TNG looks the way we expect it to. I mean, it’s not like 21st-century audiences could swallow the Star Trek VI look.
Only a few die-hard fans will care about that, and if they still expect everything to look as it "should" following Discovery's quasi-reboot, they're kidding themselves.
 
You know, when I saw the title of the thread, I thought it was on his long Starfleet career. There is a great deal we never saw of his career... he was captain of the Stargazer before all his Enterprise-D comrades were even born.

They could easily do a STARGAZER spinoff, and I know the perfect person to play young Picard... the same man who played young Professor X.

James McAvoy.

Is Tom Hardy unavailable?
 
I thought about Tom Hardy, and he did a good job with what he had.

But I feel McAvoy is a better fit. Not something I can even put into words. He just seems like a better fit.
 
You know, when I saw the title of the thread, I thought it was on his long Starfleet career. There is a great deal we never saw of his career... he was captain of the Stargazer before all his Enterprise-D comrades were even born.

They could easily do a STARGAZER spinoff, and I know the perfect person to play young Picard... the same man who played young Professor X.

James McAvoy.
James McAvoy is 40 years old. X-Men: First Class was a loooong time ago.
 
Problem is, neither James McAvoy nor Tom Hardy look like a younger Sir Patrick. McAvoy and Sir Patrick don't even have the same eye color (McAvoy's eyes are blue and Sir Patrick's eyes are gray-green). Don't get me wrong, I think McAvoy did a fine job as young Professor X, but there is absolutely no likeness between the two men.

(I realize I'm probably the only one who's nitpick-y enough to complain about this sort of thing, but hey.)
 
Problem is, neither James McAvoy nor Tom Hardy look like a younger Sir Patrick. McAvoy and Sir Patrick don't even have the same eye color (McAvoy's eyes are blue and Sir Patrick's eyes are gray-green). Don't get me wrong, I think McAvoy did a fine job as young Professor X, but there is absolutely no likeness between the two men.

(I realize I'm probably the only one who's nitpick-y enough to complain about this sort of thing, but hey.)

Contact lenses can help a lot...
 
Problem is, neither James McAvoy nor Tom Hardy look like a younger Sir Patrick. McAvoy and Sir Patrick don't even have the same eye color (McAvoy's eyes are blue and Sir Patrick's eyes are gray-green). Don't get me wrong, I think McAvoy did a fine job as young Professor X, but there is absolutely no likeness between the two men.

(I realize I'm probably the only one who's nitpick-y enough to complain about this sort of thing, but hey.)

Sir Patrick's son has the same look. But he is so much taller. Sir Patrick would have to wear high-heels to match is height....
 
I went with the litverse timeline. I've been reading it for 20 years and like where it is right now. The year is 2387, Picard is captain of the Enterprise and is off to another mission of exploration. Forgive me if I say, it feels very Star Trekky, going where no one has gone before.

There has been a lot of hardships and tough choices along the way. It's not some utopian vision for Picard. He's had to deal with the fallout of Section 31's taking down of a President, a horrifying Borg invasion that frankly, thinking back, probably rivals what Admiral Picard went through with the Romulan crisis. After all, entire worlds were obliterated when the Borg decided we were too much trouble and decided annihilation was in order. Then the cold war with the Typhon Pact. And a number of tough missions along the way. It hasn't been peaches and cream for Captain Picard. BUT, he is still in Starfleet, fighting the good fight, doing what he does best. He has a family, finally realized a relationship with Beverly Crusher--something that was left hanging throughout TNG with no real resolution, and he has a son.

And in the litverse, Riker is the admiral. He has a happy marriage to Deanna and a daughter. And he has a good and diverse crew on the Titan. And surprisingly or not Captain Picard has no issues with serving under his former subordinate, not even a hint of dissent. And Captain Picard is quite happy in many ways that he can't be promoted. He's where he wants to be. A happy ending to a timeline with a lot of heartache, twists and turns, and hardships.

And then there's all that's going on in DS9 and Voyager.

I'm concerned with where Star Trek: Picard is right now. There's enough real life in the real word as it is, I'd prefer a show with a more positive outlook as an cure for all that, even if just for an hour a week. I do hope that what others have speculated come true. That by the end of the show the Federation universe and Picard himself are looking ahead to a positive future. Time will tell.
 
Contact lenses can help a lot...

While that would take care of the eye color thing and satisfy Sir Patrick nitpickers like me, it still wouldn't make them look alike much otherwise.

Sir Patrick's son has the same look. But he is so much taller. Sir Patrick would have to wear high-heels to match is height....

I totally wouldn't mind that, haha. But HE probably would, given how he had to practice for an entire weekend to make the heels work for his character in Blunt Talk. :D

I'm pretty sure Dan Stewart would be honored if they asked him (he's still miffed no one considered him for Shinzon "we don't mention Nemesis", he always says). But yeah he's kinda tall, people would be saying "why is younger Picard so tall?"... but then, they'd simply have to hire actors who are either as tall as he is or even taller than he is. That way no one would notice (unless they do bring in Sir Patrick as older Jean-Luc in some way, but they wouldn't HAVE to do that, and if they do, they can always play the "Gillian Anderson/Dana Scully X Files trick" - make him stand on a box to make him seem taller). :lol:
 
While that would take care of the eye color thing and satisfy Sir Patrick nitpickers like me, it still wouldn't make them look alike much otherwise.



I totally wouldn't mind that, haha. But HE probably would, given how he had to practice for an entire weekend to make the heels work for his character in Blunt Talk. :D

I'm pretty sure Dan Stewart would be honored if they asked him (he's still miffed no one considered him for Shinzon "we don't mention Nemesis", he always says). But yeah he's kinda tall, people would be saying "why is younger Picard so tall?"... but then, they'd simply have to hire actors who are either as tall as he is or even taller than he is. That way no one would notice (unless they do bring in Sir Patrick as older Jean-Luc in some way, but they wouldn't HAVE to do that, and if they do, they can always play the "Gillian Anderson/Dana Scully X Files trick" - make him stand on a box to make him seem taller). :lol:

Tom Cruise as Ferengi? Alas, I'm not a Cruise fan.
 
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