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Janeway really left the Lowerdecks Ignorant.

Guy Gardener

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From Deathwish.

QUINN: Nothing. He's still there in the twenty fourth century. I just took the rest of us to an old hiding place of mine.
JANEWAY: Report.
KIM: Captain, there are no stars outside.
QUINN: Well, that's partially accurate. Actually, there's no universe outside.
JANEWAY: On screen. Commander?
CHAKOTAY: I'm showing a large build-up of baryonic particles.
QUINN: Perfectly normal.
TUVOK: Captain, based on our readings, it appears we've been transported back in time to the birth of the universe.
VS...

From Good Shepherd.

ENGINEER: Hello. Sorry to interrupt.
HARREN: I'm about to disprove Schlezholt's theory of multiple big bangs. Of course I had to demolish Wang's second postulate to do it.
ENGINEER: Power transfer requisition.
HARREN: You're standing in the way of cosmological history.
ENGINEER: The cosmos is sixteen billion years old. It can wait another few minutes.
HARREN: Schlezholt would thank you for the reprieve.
"Sigh."

How do you not mention in passing to a theoreticalpaleocosmologist that he'd slept through the big bang?

That's way over the line.
 
Why wake him? The ship wouldn't survive the Big Bang. But Since Quinn took them away from there I'm sure he has tons of data to study.
 
But that's it, not just Janeway but the entire crew, gave him six feet 0f clearance, because he's so large of an ass, that no one can be bothered talking to this SOB about any topic... In theory?
 
In theory, he could have asked for and been given all the data taken by Voyager during their less than 1 minute their.
 
that's if time existed before the big bang.

They may have recorded "relative" years, millennia worth of data in those minutes?

But that still doesn't, as unlikely as it seems, mean that he knew about the accumulated knowledge on the origin of everything, otherwise why would he be trying to disprove other peoples theories with competing theories when he had facts?

It's like how the church will serve no spiritual service after God shows up and says "Gotchya!"

Proof precludes faith = Proof precluds theory.
 
It's sort of par for the course really - 7 years in the DQ and no one on the ship got married/pregnant...Janeway probably kept them in stasis on their off hours...
 
^ Wasn't a member of the Lower Decks...If you're in the Senior Staff you can have marriages, children, grandchildren etc if you're not then you can't...
 
I don't think they were out there long enough for it to become a generational ship. Tom and B'Elanna had a child, and if the ship had been stuck out there for more time, their child would be considered the break point. I would assume, most people would think like I would, I'm not going to have a child out here who could live and die on Voyager and never see their home world. The Paris child could have been the breaking point. People may have started having children after that. And if it did happen, with Voyager's limited space and supplies, Janeway and Chakotay may have had to stop it or limit when children could be born.
 
Voyager was rated for 200, so there'd be room for expansion as far as families, and family facilities are concerned...
 
Would have been interesting if they'd come across other people who'd been displaced by the Caretaker...
 
There would be some room for families, as single room would have to be joined to make room for a family (parent's bedroom, child or children's room(s), family room) space would be at a premium. Children are also a liability. They would need to trained in what to do during a Red Alert, older kids would have to start pulling their weight and learn engineering, security, piloting a starship/shuttle, medicine, bridge duty to those capable.

If Voyager had been stuck out there for ~70 years, standing orders may allow a couple 1 child and only so many could have children at 1 time. Keep a group of 10 to 15 kids of the same age allowing for species or hybrids that mature faster or slower than average on Voyager (Which would be human children from the crew we saw.) The ones that mature faster would be able to more quickly replace fallen officers.

How'd we get here from the Big Bang?
 
Weeeell: "Our whole universe was in a hot dense state..."

Oh wait you mean the topic? It's a fairly natural progression!

I think that they proved with Naomi and the Borg Kids that children slot fairly neatly into the ship's compliment...
 
I don't think they were out there long enough for it to become a generational ship. Tom and B'Elanna had a child, and if the ship had been stuck out there for more time, their child would be considered the break point. I would assume, most people would think like I would, I'm not going to have a child out here who could live and die on Voyager and never see their home world. The Paris child could have been the breaking point. People may have started having children after that. And if it did happen, with Voyager's limited space and supplies, Janeway and Chakotay may have had to stop it or limit when children could be born.

Next thing you're telling me is that she'd limit the spread of Borg biofirmware enhancement among the crew. She's a starship captain not a dictator, it's not like Janeway can write new law. Although shit like that and the crew is going to elect a federation council representative, who could be anyone (except Neelix) who would outrank Janeway.

They could have come up with a crew exchange program to get rid of the people who wanted to settle down.

Janeway could have sent any one to the other Voyager in Deadlock, with Naomi, but she chose Kim. Seriously, as a Capitan would you want to replace your missing Kim or get a second Tuvok?

Would have been interesting if they'd come across other people who'd been displaced by the Caretaker...

The 37s. No one wanted to go.

Although, no one wanting to go in seaosn one is hardly the same as no one wanting to go in season 7... Co-Neelix-OUGH!
 
As Captain she is very much like a dictator. After Naomi's birth, she and Chakotay, did discuss the idea of Voyager becoming a generational ship, they decided to hold off on making any decisions for a while.
 
As Captain she is very much like a dictator. After Naomi's birth, she and Chakotay, did discuss the idea of Voyager becoming a generational ship, they decided to hold off on making any decisions for a while.

Actually that was the episode where it turned out that Sam Wildman was pregnant...
 
That's when they were saying that babies were required.

It wasn't till Scientific Method that she tried to stop all sex on the ship.

McCoy is a hundred 137 in Encounter at Farpoint.

Humans born in the last few decades like the majority of Voyagers Crew, because of medical advancements and laxing tapu on genetic enhancement issues that (Look at what Polaski was able to get away with!) should still be in their prime when they reach 137.

Although.

If the Maquis abandoned everything federation, including medicine, and they're second generation, or they've just gone years without maintenance, it's possible that they might only live as long as a 20th century Human, becoming unusable as a worker in most cases past 60.

Doesn't that mean that her real crew are much more valuable, if the Maquis only have a third the life expectancy as the rest of the crew except the Vulcans?
 
That's when they were saying that babies were required.

It wasn't till Scientific Method that she tried to stop all sex on the ship.

McCoy is a hundred was 147 in Encounter at Farpoint.

Humans born in the last few decades like the majority of Voyagers Crew, because of medical advancements and laxing tapu on genetic enhancement issues that (Look at what Polaski was able to get away with!) should still be in their prime when they reach 137.

Although.

If the Maquis abandoned everything federation, including medicine, and they're second generation, or they've just gone years without maintenance, it's possible that they might only live as long as a 20th century Human, becoming unusable as a worker in most cases past 60.

She was being experimented on. I wouldn't take anything said during that episode as gospel.
 
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