Yes they are and they completely and utterly slipped my mind!
Janeway Died? In Which Book?
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Yes they are and they completely and utterly slipped my mind!
"Captain's Log, stardate 59863.1. We are (sigh) cataloguing gaseous anomolies along the friggin neutral zone where nothing ever happens. Sometimes I wish that something ANYTHING would liven up our day."
"Captain! Incoming vessel. It's the USS Death Row!
"Full about ensign! Those Orions will make us deader than Janeway!"
For some reason I get the impression that they're Mob pirates which makes them more badass, because you don't screw with the Mob or Pirates so its worse when their the Mob AND Pirates.
Hardly. I can think of any number of creative decisions the authors and editors have made that I strongly disagree with or thought were foolish -- from
the idea of the Founders having their own god, to the idea that the Federation doesn't have its own independent Supreme Court, to the idea that Section 31 wouldn't make provisions to account for Min Zife's whereabouts after assassinating him, to the Federation Council wanting to negotiate with the Borg, to the contents of "Homecoming" and "The Farther Shore,"
But the difference is, I don't attribute malice to them. I can criticize their creative decisions without literally lying about them or assuming that they're awful people.
Can you?
Nonsense. Artists aren't obligated to apologize for a creative decision you don't like. But common decency demands that you apologize for attacking someone's character for selfish reasons, which is what you did.
Did killing Janeway in one of the book continuities (even if it is the main one) cause your window to break or something? No? Then they owe you nothing.
How ironic, from the man who BEGAN by flaming the authors.
There, fixed it for ya.
And, yes, I will be very happy to keep reading the novels, thank you very much.
If you disagree with their decisions so strongly, I would suggest not reading the books -- and NOT flaming them for making decisions you don't like. You're not 12 years old, after all.
So anyone here besides me figure Lynx is bluffing about the whole giving up on Star Trek rant he's been harping on about for the past week?
Absolutely! He's a Trekfan just like the rest of us. We are known far and wide for our bitching...Lynx a bit more so
And I thought 12 years old was being generous
I don't know if he's bluffing but I don't think he has read any of the latest books and if I remember right he has not even read Before Dishonor. He takes a special delight in being a critic of fiction he has never even bothered to read!
Kevin
So is the majority of the content of most of your posts.
Might have been? MIGHT have been?!? You've been "threatening" this for a week now, as though your expectation is that somebody will ready this pathetic statement and come back with "Oh pleeeeeeeease, Lynx, pleeeeease don't stop being interested in Star Trek!! Pleeeeeeease keep putting this much importance on made-up people who by your own admission you don't care very much about!! The rest of us can't have any enjoyment from Star Trek (or anything else for that matter) without knowing that you're reading/watching/enjoying it all too!!!"
Yeah, there was a time when men were kind, and their voices were soft and their words inviting, and blah blah blah blah blah...
Yep, 'cause it's all about you.
Oh...oh really?? We'll get a lengthy message? From you?? On THIS FORUM?? Be still, what's left of my heart....
(Admittedly, such a message expressing gratitude would make for a nice change, not to mention a terrific surprise...)
What he said.
Call it a gut feeling, but I don't think Lynx is going to apologise, you know...
Nope, not blasphemy. You've just been inexcusably rude (not to mention obstinate).
Wrong again (oh look, I'm shocked). Unlike you, I'm not going to have the audacity or the temerity to speak for any fan other than myself, but I'm a fan of "the authors and editors" simply because they themselves love Star Trek so much that they're committed to telling some truly wonderful stories set in the Star Trek universe. Do all those stories fit my own personal view of what Star Trek should be? No. Do all of them feature every character I might personally like? No. Are all of them even great books? Well, no...but even the ones I think are lousy are written by authors who are trying their best -- as many many many people here have said, writing Star Trek books simply doesn't pay enough to do it for the money.
That'd be the crew of Voyager. Do try to keep up.
How many of them are left? Chakotay and Kim? Oh, it will be interesting to see how Doctor X, Lieutenant Y and ensign Jimmy reacts on Janeway's death!
Now see, if you'd been reading the books, you'd understand that Doctor X has been treating Ensign Jimmy for post-traumatic stress in the wake of the Borg incursion, and X's fears that Janeway's death might push the poor lad over the edge, poor lad. As for Lieutenant Y, yeah, he sucks.
No no no, a "joke" is a story with a humorous climax.
You work in marketing, don't you? Those are some snappy brand names.
Yeah, because once again, it's all about you...
(Hell, I'm still waiting for George Lucas to apologise to me for giving Luke Skywalker a green lightsaber in Return of the Jedi. I hate green...)
Really? I thought they killed Janeway....
Can you imagine the scene at Pocket Books?
Marco: Hey, Margaret, I just picked up a copy of Before Dishonor in my local book store. Did you realise we killed Janeway??
Margaret: What?!? I had no idea...I certainly never would have done that intentionally.
Marco: I know! We might seriously aggrieve some pseudonymous fan on a message board somewhere.
Margaret: I can't understand how that could have happened. I must have tripped over something....
That's you, that is.
You leave my religious practices out of this! I swear, it's like you've got a hidden camera in my house....
Yeah, I think I might be done. You know what though, Thrawn - I have really enjoyed reading your posts in this (increasingly nonsensical) thread. You make a lot of great points and seem like a cool person. I guess something good has come out of this mess after all.
Yeah, I think I might be done. You know what though, Thrawn - I have really enjoyed reading your posts in this (increasingly nonsensical) thread. You make a lot of great points and seem like a cool person. I guess something good has come out of this mess after all.
I feel we've all grown as people. Well, maybe not all of us.
Apparently unsatisfied with the response he received here, Lynx has decided to repost his entire rant in the Books & Products forum at StarTrek.com.
The first response to his post sums up the situation far better (and much more succinctly) than anything anyone here has said…
The first response to his post sums up the situation far better (and much more succinctly) than anything anyone here has said…
Apparently unsatisfied with the response he received here, Lynx has decided to repost his entire rant in the Books & Products forum at StarTrek.com.
The first response to his post sums up the situation far better (and much more succinctly) than anything anyone here has said…
You are not wrong.
Oh. So you're the guy the world revolves around. I mean, it knew it sure as hell wasn't me after the last year and a half, but it didn't know who it actually was.
What's really funny to me is that Lynx, due to his ban on post-"Fury" episodes, barely knows Seven of Nine, and probably considers Seven a "replacement" character.
Apparently unsatisfied with the response he received here, Lynx has decided to repost his entire rant in the Books & Products forum at StarTrek.com.
The first response to his post sums up the situation far better (and much more succinctly) than anything anyone here has said…
That response is possibly the funniest thing I've read in a while!
Oh and thanks for answering my question about possibly killing Captain Picard way back about one hundred posts ago. I was curious as to if it even crossed your mind.
tits!
How funny that your answer David to Dimesdan sounds like advice that Lynx should heed!
Kevin
count me in as another one considering buying Full Circle despite not buying Golden's foursome or being a huge fan of VGR. (well conceived, ill-executed, love 7, love the EMH, like Paris)
Apparently unsatisfied with the response he received here, Lynx has decided to repost his entire rant in the Books & Products forum at StarTrek.com.
The first response to his post sums up the situation far better (and much more succinctly) than anything anyone here has said…
The WAAAAAAMBULANCE was even funnier
. And when Therin said "What's really funny to me is that Lynx, due to his ban on post-"Fury" episodes, barely knows Seven of Nine, and probably considers Seven a "replacement" character.
...I almost shit myself. If Lynx is only a fan of the first 3 seasons of Voyager, he has absolutely no business calling himself a Voyager fan. He hasn't even watched it since 1997
! I didn't think it was even possible for me to take him less seriously. Live and learn I guess...
Wow. Talk about massive ThreadFail.
Apparently unsatisfied with the response he received here, Lynx has decided to repost his entire rant in the Books & Products forum at StarTrek.com.
The first response to his post sums up the situation far better (and much more succinctly) than anything anyone here has said…
The WAAAAAAMBULANCE was even funnier
"What's really funny to me is that Lynx, due to his ban on post-"Fury" episodes, barely knows Seven of Nine, and probably considers Seven a "replacement" character.
...I almost shit myself. If Lynx is only a fan of the first 3 seasons of Voyager, he has absolutely no business calling himself a Voyager fan. He hasn't even watched it since 1997
Just for your information:
I watched seasons 1-3 of Voyager some months ago since I have the DVD:s. During the last years, I've actually re-watched the episodes a couple of times. So stating that I haven't watched the show since 1997 is definitely wrong.
I've re-read some of the books several times, most notably "The Black Shore" by Greg Cox, "Marooned" by Christie Golden, "Her Klingon Soul" by Michael Jan Friedman and "Caretaker" by LA Graf.
I'm maintaining a website about Kes where there's a lot of information, not only about Kes but about other aspects of Voyager as well, such as episode reviews, book reviews, maps, and a timeline.
So I do think I can call myself a fan of the show.
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