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James T. Kirk - Corny Sex Music

NathanielM

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What was up with that funky music when Kirk started making moves on the all the broads he met, on and off his ship.

That was some serious corny music there.

Made me think of a REALLY BAD 70's Porno and imagine Shatner in the lead role. :guffaw: :guffaw:

LOL

Nathaniel
 
This really is a matter of perspective. Much of TOS' music was styled after music of the early '60s and thus has that era's feel to it. It wasn't meant to be corny. It's really only one's perspective influenced by onees experience.

In kind I find much of contemporay scoring on tv and film to be really bad, often flat and soulless and totally forgettable.
 
What I would add to that is that television of the sixties and seventies (including dramas) were played out more like stage productions. Everything that could be over done was done to make up for everything that was lacking in production values.

Today we expect to see hard edged, ultra life-like presentations on television.

And in a similar way, the very colorful look of Trek was important to show off color televisions back then.


But think about it this way, if the stories and ideas hadn't held up so well, nearly no one today would even care about that type of stuff from 40 years ago. :eek:
 
hmmm redo the original series with some Doors or Hendrix... then... :)

At least it was not like Lost in Space one season (i think three around 1968-69) and Trek did not go through the flower power and hippie thing with pychedelic tye dye, no bras and 60's pychedelic rock. :)

Close enuf tho with Checkov's Dew tho... :)
More geared as a parody to "The Monkees" (1968)

Every time I hear that music, I can almost see him getting it on with the green broad that did Captain Pike. :)

*snicker*


Nathaniel --
 
I like TOS' music. Yes, some of it seems a little too brash or intrusive now, but it was properly evocative and memorable. I wouldn't score a series like that today, but I might emulate their general approach to scoring.
 
Shaw said:
What I would add to that is that television of the sixties and seventies (including dramas) were played out more like stage productions. Everything that could be over done was done to make up for everything that was lacking in production values.

Today we expect to see hard edged, ultra life-like presentations on television.

And in a similar way, the very colorful look of Trek was important to show off color televisions back then.
Actually, this is also a matter of perspective.

The production values were quite high for the show, as well as many others on TV at the time, which is why so much was filmed on sets rather than location. Location shooting in the 50s and 60s was generally a sign of a lack of budget to build sets, though that would change when "avant garde" films like "Blow Up" came along and the studio system began to die out and profit margins became more and more important.

The shows were not just colorful because of TV but because technicolor was popular in movies, and TV basically was a poor man's version of movies, which were a poor man's version of theater. Ironically, as TV became more popular, movies had to change to differentiate themselves from TV shows, so in addition to changes in film stock, movies gained a harder look (some might say more realistic), let characters cuss, showed nudity and sexuality, and amped up the violence, which were ways to compete against TV with what it could not show. The quality of the acting was on par with anything of the day -- most people tuned in to see a performance, not to see someone go the method actor route and try to seem like just a regular person in a ridiculously extreme situation.


Today's shows will seem equally as silly in future -- watch "CSI: Miami," for instance, with its self-indulgent acting from David Caruso, bland acting from everyone else, comedy-club-styled lighting, and two-instrument soundtrack. Styles change, as do tastes and viewers.
 
Shaw said:
What I would add to that is that television of the sixties and seventies (including dramas) were played out more like stage productions. Everything that could be over done was done to make up for everything that was lacking in production values.
The first thing I always think about with early TOS is the camera at a 40 degree angle and a strip of light across a character's eyes like a mask. VERY theatrical and OTT, but it was a cheap alternative to more F/X. ;)
 
Actually the way they did alot of that series was very innovative for the time. Although they were limited budgeted for alot of things.

The sets were not bad either, until the third season.

The music tho again, was reused and alot of the props from Season 1 and 2... if ya look close there are a few things you can see. Such as the top of NOMAD from the Changeling used in a later episode. :)
 
NathanielM said:
What was up with that funky music when Kirk started making moves on the all the broads he met, on and off his ship.

That was some serious corny music there.

Made me think of a REALLY BAD 70's Porno and imagine Shatner in the lead role. :guffaw: :guffaw:

LOL

Nathaniel

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Do you?
 
Shaw said:
What I would add to that is that television of the sixties and seventies (including dramas) were played out more like stage productions. Everything that could be over done was done to make up for everything that was lacking in production values.

They weren't lacking. And they weren't overdone.

Today we expect to see hard edged, ultra life-like presentations on television.

Hardly. Today's television acting seems to require the actors take a lithium/vicodin cocktail. No one I know stands there and recites lines the way the blocks of wood on tv today do. I's shoot myself if the people around me were so boring.
 
I still have no idea what music cue NathanielM is talking about.

And I find it funny when people complain about the TOS musicial score and claim that it's "too theatrical" or "over the top". One of the things missing from television (and even some films) today is music. Can anyone remember a single note from Batman Begins? I can't. But I can instantly recognize Danny Elfman's score from the original Batman after only hearing the first few seconds. The Godfather had its share of over-dramatic incidental music, but you know what? It still worked. Epsecially on my surround sound home theater system. The music for TOS was masterfully great at its best and was sometimes appropriately reused ingeniously. Ennio Morricone could have easily and seamlessly scored an episode of TOS.
 
AC84 said:
Can anyone remember a single note from Batman Begins? I can't. But I can instantly recognize Danny Elfman's score from the original Batman after only hearing the first few seconds.

My wife and I were looking at those new greeting cards they have, with the music. She picket up a Batman card, and the music that played was apparently from one of the movies.

She said, "Doesn't sound like 'Batman' to me," and we put it back.

Joe, sounds like Rerun
 
it was actually supposed to be the fight music but some joker decided to put it in the "Hinted" sex scenes with kirk.

:) Reference Amok Time...


Nathaniel
 
Look beaker, Let's cut to the bullshit here right now. You are out of line and over your head.

Are you that dumb and stupid or what.

"Amok Time" September 15, 1967, (Aired)
Epsisode # 30

Mr. Spock gets into a murderous rage and has to return to his homeworld for a Vulcan marriage ritual to cure him.

The fight scene between spock and kirk was used in a couple episodes for the love scenes for Kirk.

Does it make sense now I do I have to spell it out?

Nathaniel
(edited to remove my profanity and comments)
 
NathanielM said:
What was up with that funky music when Kirk started making moves on the all the broads he met, on and off his ship.

That was some serious corny music there.

Made me think of a REALLY BAD 70's Porno and imagine Shatner in the lead role. :guffaw: :guffaw:

LOL

I once saw a 70's porno that had the chase music from "The Lone Ranger" as the soundtrack.

The best line was when the lanky, janky black dude said, "Now that paleface boogied, we gon' get down to some serious fuckin'."

Joe, outta sight
 
NathanielM said:
Look beaker, Let's cut to the bullshit here right now. You are out of line and over your head.

Are you that dumb and stupid or what.

"Amok Time" September 15, 1967, (Aired)
Epsisode # 30

Mr. Spock gets into a murderous rage and has to return to his homeworld for a Vulcan marriage ritual to cure him.

The fight scene between spock and kirk was used in a couple episodes for the love scenes for Kirk.

Does it make sense now I do I have to spell it out?

Nathaniel
(edited to remove my profanity and comments)

Sorry if you're having trouble with English: name ONE episode where it was used in a love scene.
 
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