James Luceno's Darth Plageuis Cover Revealed!

[The Wormhole]

That is a cool cover. Although I've only read a handful of Star Wars novels, I might check this one out.

Although, isn't December 27th an odd time to release a hardcover? I would have thought they'd at least want to try to have it out before Christmas, or if that wasn't possible hold off until the new year? I'm not complaining, hell I might be able to use a gift card on this, it just seems odd.

 

[Admiral_Young]

They've released Star Wars books the week after Christmas before in the past. I think the Luke Skywalker Mindor book came out on the 27th or 28th as well. A couple of others I can't recall right now. I don't think a pre-Christmas date is really important to them to be honest.

 

[The Wormhole]

I just thought they'd be likely to have greater sales before Christmas, but if this sort of thing has worked out in the past, then who am I to argue with results?

 

[timothy]

I can't wait till this comes out. the art reminds me of frank frezetta.

 

[sidious618]

Nothing that was told to Luceno by Lucas is in question or in danger of being supplanted by whatever revisionist theory is the most popular right now. Furthermore, nothing shown in TCW so far conflicts with Luceno in any way.

David Filoni, Lucas's go to guy for Clone Wars has said Lucas's take on General Grievious and his origin was radically different from what Luceno claimed Lucas told him as per the CW Season 1 DVD Commentaries. I think it's apparent that Luceno's credibility about what Lucas said about Grievious and probably Plagueis should be considered dubious at best and lying at worst.

Wow, that's quite a reach. Luceno could've misunderstood Lucas, Lucas could've misremembered or Luceno may have misspoken. It's such a minor issue to attack Lucneo for as well. And if the book is good, as it probably will be, then who cares?

Anyhow, the cover is creepy as hell and I'm going to pick this one up.

 

[RandyS]

Just the comments after I posted it were discouraging at first. I wanted reactions to the actual art not debates about canon or political views on Luceno and Lucas.

Speaking strictly for myself, the art is interesting, but I'm more interested in the story. It's going to be interesting to see Palpatine in the apprentice role for a change.

 

[JD]

I love the cover and I can't wait for this book. I've been wanting to learn more about Sidious, and it sounds like this should cover alot of his history.

 

[Hound of UIster]

Nothing that was told to Luceno by Lucas is in question or in danger of being supplanted by whatever revisionist theory is the most popular right now. Furthermore, nothing shown in TCW so far conflicts with Luceno in any way.

David Filoni, Lucas's go to guy for Clone Wars has said Lucas's take on General Grievious and his origin was radically different from what Luceno claimed Lucas told him as per the CW Season 1 DVD Commentaries. I think it's apparent that Luceno's credibility about what Lucas said about Grievious and probably Plagueis should be considered dubious at best and lying at worst.

Wow, that's quite a reach. Luceno could've misunderstood Lucas, Lucas could've misremembered or Luceno may have misspoken. It's such a minor issue to attack Lucneo for as well. And if the book is good, as it probably will be, then who cares?

Anyhow, the cover is creepy as hell and I'm going to pick this one up.

I've been reading through the message board archives for tfn recently, but according to them this isn't the first time he has lied. He also blamed George Lucas for killing a fan favorite character in NJO when it was later revealed to be the decision of the editors.

 

[Admiral_Young]

^ You used people's message board opinions for the basis of your original comment? Wow. You could've just not bothered to post in the thread if you don't care about the book due to some views about Luceno you know.

 

[Hound of UIster]

I have no problem with his writing.

All I'm saying is that he plays fast and loose with the truth and at the price of the fans' understanding of behind the scenes events for the Star Wars novels.

 

[Set Harth]

He also blamed George Lucas for killing a fan favorite character in NJO when it was later revealed to be the decision of the editors.

Assuming that even really happened, it wouldn't indicate that he was lying. It would just mean he did not know the editors were responsible and incorrectly believed the decision to have come from Lucas.

Nothing that was told to Luceno by Lucas is in question or in danger of being supplanted by whatever revisionist theory is the most popular right now. Furthermore, nothing shown in TCW so far conflicts with Luceno in any way.

David Filoni, Lucas's go to guy for Clone Wars has said Lucas's take on General Grievious and his origin was radically different from what Luceno claimed Lucas told him as per the CW Season 1 DVD Commentaries. I think it's apparent that Luceno's credibility about what Lucas said about Grievious and probably Plagueis should be considered dubious at best and lying at worst.

Wow, that's quite a reach. Luceno could've misunderstood Lucas, Lucas could've misremembered or Luceno may have misspoken.

Or Lucas could have simply have changed his mind and presented Filoni with a different Grievous backstory than the one allegedly presented to Luceno years earlier... not exactly an unimaginable scenario. In the end, the final result in TCW was made intentionally vague by Filoni's own admission, so that it could still be seen as potentially consistent with the EU version. Lucas changing his mind about Grievous' backstory does not make Luceno a liar. Furthermore, Darth Plagueis is a completely separate topic, one which Luceno's books say relatively little about ( though they do say he failed to achieve the ability to cheat death, a fact which was also stated in Death Star by other authors ) and it is only speculation to assume that Lucas told Luceno anything about Plagueis in the first place, while it requires further speculation of a baseless and hyperbolic nature to assume that Luceno plans to lie about whatever he might have been told about Plagueis. What is the motive behind all this desperate reaching and speculation, I wonder? Is it possible that someone's already building a case against potential "undesirable" revelations in the book?

 

[sidious618]

I've been reading through the message board archives for tfn recently, but according to them this isn't the first time he has lied. He also blamed George Lucas for killing a fan favorite character in NJO when it was later revealed to be the decision of the editors.

It sounds like you're reading anti-Luceno posts. I remember this exactly 'cause I was a big EU reader during the NJO. The editors wanted to kill of Luke but Lucas said no, they had to kill off another character which led them to killing off the one they did in Vector Prime. And it never seemed like Luceno was "blaming" Lucas for it. If he was blaming Lucas for such things then I doubt Lucas would've worked with him again.

 

[Admiral_Young]

Yeah there are quite a few Luceno haters stemming from that character death in "Vector Prime". I remember the hub bub about it there and on here when it happened. I still don't see how it undermines this particular book as House of UIster suggested it did in his original post. If it did, it's more than likely we would not see it published.

 

[Set Harth]

All I'm saying is that he plays fast and loose with the truth

Luceno hasn't played fast and loose with the truth.

 

[sidious618]

Yeah there are quite a few Luceno haters stemming from that character death in "Vector Prime". I remember the hub bub about it there and on here when it happened. I still don't see how it undermines this particular book as House of UIster suggested it did in his original post. If it did, it's more than likely we would not see it published.

Yeah, if Luceno was a liar and blaming Lucas for stuff then there's no way Lucas would've hired him to do the big books immediately before and after RotS and then to do the Palpatine/Plageius book.

 

[Set Harth]

Besides, we don't really know what's in the book yet. It could end up being vague on certain subjects.

 

[Hound of UIster]

I've been reading through the message board archives for tfn recently, but according to them this isn't the first time he has lied. He also blamed George Lucas for killing a fan favorite character in NJO when it was later revealed to be the decision of the editors.

It sounds like you're reading anti-Luceno posts. I remember this exactly 'cause I was a big EU reader during the NJO. The editors wanted to kill of Luke but Lucas said no, they had to kill off another character which led them to killing off the one they did in Vector Prime. And it never seemed like Luceno was "blaming" Lucas for it. If he was blaming Lucas for such things then I doubt Lucas would've worked with him again.

It wasn't Vector Prime, it was Star By Star and the death was Anakin.

It seems he says that it was Lucas who orders them to kill off Anakin. Then later they retract that and say that it was their own decision.

 

[Admiral_Young]

Ooops. Matthew Stover wrote Vector Prime haha. Another author who received hatred from fans after a major character's death.

Luceno saying something and the editors saying something are two very different things. Sigh. This has become too big a deal and something I didn't want to get in. This thread has morphed into something entirely different than what I wanted to discuss which was the book it's self.

 

[Gaith]

Yeah, it's time to focus on what really matters: is Palpatine a homosexual or not?!

 

[Admiral_Young]

Sigh.