James Horner's Complete TWOK Now Available

[Broccoli]

Hmm...the film only had 67 minutes worth of music. I'd figure it'd be more than that. Oh well. Cool still.

Consider this. After the opening credits, we don't hear ANY MUSIC at all till the Botany Bay belt buckle shows up. There are indeed huge gaps of music in this movie, but that in no way hinders my enjoyment for it.

Yeah, after I posted that, I started to think more and more about where music was placed in the movie. You're right...there is none until Khan shows up.

I guess I am so used to a John Williams and modern day scores where nearly the entire film is covered with music.

 

[Frontier]

Wow. This is epic. I never thought I'd see the day...

 

[Basill]

I find it interesting that "Spock" and "Kirk Takes Command" are in fact separate tracks. Since there is a distinct pause during the Kirk/Spock conversation in Spock's quarters that must have made it all the more easy to release the "Spock" track originally and set it up as its own theme and leaving out all the incidental stuff (which of course I love. Heh).

Another interesting thing is the "Genesis Project" which is a full 3:16 min on the CD. The sample that FSM provides is just under a minute and doesn't sound a great deal like anything presented in the movie during Carol Marcus's proposal. All of the samples appear to start at the beginning of their respective tracks. Seeing that the proposal in the film is only a little over a minute and a half or so, that seems like a lot of extra material. I wonder how much, if any, of those movie sounds are in the Huxley track and is all the movie stuff just past where the sample ends? Was the Genesis Proposal all music in the film or a combination of moody music and sound effects added later? I've ordered mine so I guess I'll know soon enough.

I'm just happy I'll get to hear the "Kirk In Shuttle" music without dialogue. That's some of my favorite incidental music in the film.

 

[EEE]

Hmm...the film only had 67 minutes worth of music. I'd figure it'd be more than that. Oh well. Cool still.

Consider this. After the opening credits, we don't hear ANY MUSIC at all till the Botany Bay belt buckle shows up. There are indeed huge gaps of music in this movie, but that in no way hinders my enjoyment for it.

Try the movie Marooned (which was almost spooky in it's prescient relationship to the real Apollo 13 mission)... there is NO music in the movie. However, they did use specific background noises/sounds for each location (ie. Apollo module, Soyuz module, Mission Control, etc)... I never realized it until decades later when I was rewatching it and looked it up to find out any interesting trivia.

 

[Bad Atom]

This is exciting news, but if they released a complete TFF score, then I'd be doing the Dance of Joy.

 

[Data Holmes]

This is exciting news, but if they released a complete TFF score, then I'd be doing the Dance of Joy.

I hear that.

 

[Bones2]

Thirded. I absolutely love the TFF score.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Another interesting thing is the "Genesis Project" which is a full 3:16 min on the CD... I wonder how much, if any, of those movie sounds are in the Huxley track and is all the movie stuff just past where the sample ends? Was the Genesis Proposal all music in the film or a combination of moody music and sound effects added later?

Craig Hundley (actor Craig "Peter Kirk" Huxley) released his own 1984 album, simply called "Genesis Project", on LP many years ago (actually a double 45 rpm one-hour presentation), and it's since come out on one CD by Sonic AtmoSpheres. Other tracks include music from "The Disappearance" and Hundley's interpretation of the TOS theme by Courage. The Genesis Project demonstration tape in ST II and ST III is accompanied by a track of music/sound effects created by Hundley, and he expanded it for his album.

 

[Maurice]

^^^It appears "Genesis Project" is included on the CD.

 

[tharpdevenport]

^^^ Yes, that's what the hoopla was about above you.


As a minor quibble, that piece should have been relegated to the end of the CD as a bonus cue.

 

[Grant]

Is this simply the entire TWOK soundtrack or does it include the parts he scored for the 129 minutes version of the film that he was given before the movie was edited down??

 

[Therin of Andor]

Is this simply the entire TWOK soundtrack or does it include the parts he scored for the 129 minutes version of the film that he was given before the movie was edited down??

Well, it comes with an alternate version of the end titles.

"FSM delivers in cooperation with Rhino Entertainment (who administer the Atlantic Records catalog) and Paramount Pictures (owners of the 'Star Trek' film franchise)—remastering the complete score from Dan Wallin's 1982 three-track film mixes, stored in the Paramount vaults in sterling sound quality."

As a minor quibble, that piece should have been relegated to the end of the CD as a bonus cue.

Then people would have complained it wasn't in the right place in the film's soundtrack order.

 

[Grant]

I wonder if its the version of the end titles without the Genesis Planet casket? That scene was added after the previews right?

 

[Indysolo]

As a minor quibble, that piece should have been relegated to the end of the CD as a bonus cue.

That's what makes iTunes and iPods and playlists so cool. You can sequence it anyway you want.

The new album represents everything that was available on the score. There's no indication that Horner scored a longer version of the movie. In fact it's quite the opposite, since the original "Epilogue" is shorter than what is in the film.

Neil

 

[tharpdevenport]

No, iPods and iTunes are NOT cool by any means. I can live with pressing the skip button, but this cue is so unlike -- stylistically speaking -- Horner's score (not even by him) just to keep album flow, it should have been left to the end.

 

[Indysolo]

Like I said, that's what makes programmable CD players and CD-Rs so cool. You can arrange the album anyway you like.

Neil

 

[Basill]

Well, mine came in today. I'm in hog heaven!

 

[arch101]

Now, if they could do a COMPLETE TMP score with all the alternates. I've been cobbling from bootlegs for years but would prefer a professionally mixed issue.
(extended but still incomplete 20th anniversary score- what a waste!)

 

[Jeyl]

Everything about this soundtrack, and I mean EVERYTHING is excellent...
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Until I hear "Space. The Final Frontier.."
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo................... . . .

 

[RyanKCR]

I just got it and it is great. Horner did mention that the part at the very end of Kirk's explosive reply was removed from the film at his request because he felt seeing the damaged Enterprise "blowing in the wind" in silence was much better.