James Bond in the Public Domain

[Shaka Zulu]

Exactly! It gets away from anything that might mean trouble in terms of copyright. They could even set it in any era they wish. Or maybe each season could be a different era, focusing on a different agent. They could even have references to the movies, without tying themselves too much to them.

And good name. I like it Though the right holders might object to it as it's too similar to the name of the movie.

Another thing about this is that, all the suggested actors for Bond over the years could essentially play some of these agents.

An Anglo-Canadian production ?

Could you start looking for some office space and a decent legal rep for us ?

Heh, thanks for the vote of confidence, but I hold absolutely no power Always fun to fantasize about these things though.

The Canadian film 'industry' is only interested in making
small scale movies like The Sweet Hereafter and that's it; a James Bond movie (or any action movie) is beyond us. Hell, this 2010 movie based on a Canadian comic book hero, although filmed in Toronto, required a British director and an American film company to be made.

 

[Owain Taggart]

An Anglo-Canadian production ?

Could you start looking for some office space and a decent legal rep for us ?

Heh, thanks for the vote of confidence, but I hold absolutely no power Always fun to fantasize about these things though.

The Canadian film 'industry' is only interested in making
small scale movies like The Sweet Hereafter and that's it; a James Bond movie (or any action movie) is beyond us. Hell, this 2010 movie based on a Canadian comic book hero, although filmed in Toronto, required a British director and an American film company to be made.

Yes, that's another very good point. It just doesn't do big-scale hollywood productions very often, and largely due to funding. Which is why I struggled in the other thread to find something we as Canadians are proud of in terms of movies. The movies we do make usually are made for Canadian eyes. Men with Brooms, anyone?


And anyhow, I don't really see why it would have to involve a Canadian production since it is primarily a British property.

Hey, I hadn't even realized the movie you linked to was based on a Canadian comic book. I remember liking it quite a bit.

 

[Doctorwhovian]

Regarding other agents, there was the Goldeneye Rogue Agent video game (Which, apart from taking place in a kind of bizzare version of the Bond continuity and featuring a rogue agent, had nothing to do with the earlier movie and game-the "Goldeneye" referred to the main character's fake eye and the developers just used the name for sales I think).


The other 00s are seen from the back in Thunderball, and apart from 006 in Goldeneye, we do see ill-fated 00s in Octopussy (009) and The Living Daylights (004). Funny thing about the Living Daylights as both 004 and 002 (Who survives although he gets 'paintballed') were reportedly meant to resemble George Lazenby and Roger Moore.

There's also sort of a running gag in some of the films where M or Bond mention 008 as a possible replacement should Bond fail in his mission.

 

[Gaith]

^ Now I want a supercut of all mentions of other 00s in the franchise. A quick youtube search turns up nada. Dammit.

 

[JarodRussell]

Everything should be in the public domain, copyright and intellectual property are silly and should be abolished. I can maybe accept works being protected for about 10 years after first publication as a compromise but not longer than that. I have no idea why it has to be some time after the death of the creator.

These laws are silly and their only purpose is to make corporations richer, screw them, don't let them hold characters and stories hostage. Disney is one of the worst offenders, it probably wouldn't even exist today if it hadn't had access to the public domain, they had no problem using Snow White to save their own asses but if anyone dares to use the stupid dwarf names or the movie designs they get sued ... blergh. I despise greedy companies who have no problem using the public domain but do anything in their power to never add anything to it.

I think one should not be prevented from basing work on someone else's, but should be obligated to share the profit (even if it is 50% of it). If you manage to make a really good Star Trek fan film, sell it and distribute it, and make a 50 million profit, you should then be obligated to pay 25 million to CBS, for example. But CBS shouldn't be able to kill your project. In turn, the copyright holder should also be obligated to compensate you when he uses your work. When you create a 3D model of a Star Destroyer in your spare time, and LucasArts just downloads it and uses it in the trailer of their game, they should be obligated to pay you for your work and the time you invested into the work (whatever they would pay a hired 3D artist). It's basically a free-market idea for creative productions.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

^^^^

I like that idea. Make it work like royalties.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I think a better idea would be for them to create an entirely new character working in the same organization, that way they wouldn't have so much trouble with copyright in different countries, and they'd be able to do whatever they want with him.

I've always loved seeing the references to other '00' agents, brief as they have been, except for Sean Bean's 006.

A show featuring one or more other agents wouldn't even need much material from the books/films - 'M', Tanner, the armourer, '00' prefixes...

May I suggest 'Her Majesty's Secret Service' as a name for the show ?

And then the next day the Queen dies and Charles takes the throne.

 

[Owain Taggart]

^ Now I want a supercut of all mentions of other 00s in the franchise. A quick youtube search turns up nada. Dammit.

Yeah, given all the stuff on Youtube, that IS rather surprising. Someone here should hop to it

 

[Starkers]

I think a better idea would be for them to create an entirely new character working in the same organization, that way they wouldn't have so much trouble with copyright in different countries, and they'd be able to do whatever they want with him.

I've always loved seeing the references to other '00' agents, brief as they have been, except for Sean Bean's 006.

A show featuring one or more other agents wouldn't even need much material from the books/films - 'M', Tanner, the armourer, '00' prefixes...

May I suggest 'Her Majesty's Secret Service' as a name for the show ?

And then the next day the Queen dies and Charles takes the throne.

Not so long as it remains a period show.

^ Now I want a supercut of all mentions of other 00s in the franchise. A quick youtube search turns up nada. Dammit.

Yeah, given all the stuff on Youtube, that IS rather surprising. Someone here should hop to it

I think we see a lot of 00s who aren't mentioned by name/number. Quite a few 00s get briefed in Thunderball, and again in TWINE (including at least one female 00 if I recall correctly)

 

[Doctorwhovian]

There's also another 002 in The Man With The Golden Gun, but he's only mentioned and never seen. Apart from Bond and Trevalyn, he's the only other 00 that's been named I think-Bill Fairbanks.

 

[Gaith]

I don't recall any other 00s in TWINE, apart from the one mentioned to have shot Renard in the head, but my memory may be incomplete.

I've long had an idea that it could be cool to start a Bond movie with a different 00 starring in the opening action sequence. After some derring-do, he almost makes a heroic escape... but is killed instead. This would both give the rest of the story a feeling of palpable danger, and 007 a personal stake in taking the baddie down. Sort of like the Skyfall opening sequence, actually, except not having Bond himself survive an obviously fatal injury and fall, and not being pretty much entirely forgotten about by the time Bond and the adversary actually meet (ideally not a full hour of screen time later).

 

[Starkers]

I don't recall any other 00s in TWINE, apart from the one mentioned to have shot Renard in the head, but my memory may be incomplete.

At the Scottish castle there's a load of people in the briefing and M gives them all an assignment except 007 because of the damage to his shoulder. Ok it isn't certain they're 00s but it is highly likely.

 

[Doctorwhovian]

^That seems a bit like the Octopussy sequence with 009, who is in clown makeup and dress from infiltrating Octopussy's circus-something Bond himself does later in the movie. Except it's the scene after the opening teaser and credits.

 

[Gaith]

^ Hm, never seen that one, but I wonder if I read something stray about it and was subconsciously inspired.

 

[Owain Taggart]

I've long had an idea that it could be cool to start a Bond movie with a different 00 starring in the opening action sequence. After some derring-do, he almost makes a heroic escape... but is killed instead. This would both give the rest of the story a feeling of palpable danger, and 007 a personal stake in taking the baddie down. Sort of like the Skyfall opening sequence, actually, except not having Bond himself survive an obviously fatal injury and fall, and not being pretty much entirely forgotten about by the time Bond and the adversary actually meet (ideally not a full hour of screen time later).

That gave me a thought about a black comedy series set in the Bond universe about an agent that keeps being given shit jobs and being in Bond's shadow all the time, always arriving to the same locations long after Bond's left.