iZombie season 2 discussion thread

[Christopher]

Did the Chaos Killer "victims" get returned to their lives? I got the impression that there were still some uncertainties about their release, what with how doctors couldn't be allowed to examine them. Still a lot of unanswered questions about the disposition of that subplot.

I thought it was overly self-indulgent for the showrunner to guest star as himself and perform his music. Then he got eaten by zombies. I really should've seen that coming.

 

[Greg Cox]

Did the Chaos Killer "victims" get returned to their lives? I got the impression that there were still some uncertainties about their release, what with how doctors couldn't be allowed to examine them. Still a lot of unanswered questions about the disposition of that subplot..

I wouldn't be surprised if the secret zombie conspiracy took the "victims" into custody--to keep them from being exposed.

 

[Christopher]

I wouldn't be surprised if the secret zombie conspiracy took the "victims" into custody--to keep them from being exposed.

But then Major would still have a problem, since he's been accused in the press of being the Chaos Killer, and we know, sadly, that public opinion tends to presume people guilty even if they're acquitted. Revealing that the "Killer"'s victims are still alive (well, most of them) is the only thing that would let Major get back to any semblance of a normal life.

 

[C.E. Evans]

I thought it was overly self-indulgent for the showrunner to guest star as himself and perform his music.

They're two different people with the same name--and it was a constant source of irony for both.

https://pmctvline2.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/rob-thomas-izombie.jpg?w=620&h=420&crop=1
(on the left is Matchbox 20 singer Rob Thomas, on the right is iZombie EP Rob Thomas).

 

[kitik]

I wouldn't be surprised if the secret zombie conspiracy took the "victims" into custody--to keep them from being exposed.

Yeah, I got the impression that the zombies were not going to be released. Though it felt a bit odd that paramilitary lady was down there zombifying her whole crew. She seemed to make that decision rather abruptly. Didn't even want to sleep on it?

The most surprising aspect of the finale was that Blaine never got his memories back. I'm sure I'm not the only one who expected a cliched return to status quo for him.

That said,
ATTENTION tv producer Rob Thomas: nobody wants to see Blaine hook up with Peyton again next season. Every single fan of the show is on team Ravi.

 

[Christopher]

Yeah, I got the impression that the zombies were not going to be released. Though it felt a bit odd that paramilitary lady was down there zombifying her whole crew. She seemed to make that decision rather abruptly. Didn't even want to sleep on it?

As we've seen before, it takes a certain amount of time for someone attacked by a zombie to develop the condition and its attributes. These guys were already eating brains and absorbing skills and knowledge from them -- as evidenced by the guy playing Matchbox Twenty's "I'm Not Crazy" while he and his crew snacked on Rob Thomas's brain. So I think they were zombies already. Which is probably why she wanted to buy Max Rager in the first place. At the very least, she presumably knew about the zombies beforehand. Would a private military corporation really spend a billion dollars on the company if its product merely provided an energy boost?

The most surprising aspect of the finale was that Blaine never got his memories back. I'm sure I'm not the only one who expected a cliched return to status quo for him.

Honestly, he seemed pretty on the ball for someone with total amnesia. His knowledge of where the weapons were stashed, and his facility in using them in action, makes me wonder if he wasn't faking the amnesia after all.

That said,
ATTENTION tv producer Rob Thomas: nobody wants to see Blaine hook up with Peyton again next season. Every single fan of the show is on team Ravi.

Wait, didn't Rob Thomas get eaten by zombies?

 

[Greg Cox]

Yeah, my impression is also that the military contractor types were already zombies, which is why the boss-lady was casually snacking on a brain as she talked to Liv. Seems that there's an entire military-industrial zombie conspiracy out there that has flown below everyone's radar until now . . ..

And there are two Rob Thomases? Kinda like the two Dave Macks?

 

[Christopher]

Seems that there's an entire military-industrial zombie conspiracy out there that has flown below everyone's radar until now . . ..

That's a pretty clever and creepy twist on the mythos. The standard Romero-zombie story has them as mindless hordes that the military has to defend against. Having them actually be a private military force, to be intelligent, armed, and organized, is rather an alarming idea.

And there are two Rob Thomases? Kinda like the two Dave Macks?

Well, what do you know -- there are. The musician Rob Thomas who appeared on the show last night is a different person from the screenwriter/novelist Rob Thomas who produces the show. I'd assumed they were one and the same. That's a weird in-joke.

 

[DigificWriter]

Vivian and her crew were already zombies before she bought Max Rager, and it's clear, based on what she says to Liv in the very last scene, that she bought the company in order to facilitate the perpetuation of the "zombie world order" that she wants to create.

Liv is more than likely going to refuse to go along with Vivian's schemes, and it therefore seems unlikely that she, Clive, or Major are going to make it out of that parking garage unscathed, at least on their own.

It also seems unlikely that we're going to get the standard 'case of the week' format we've come accustomed to much, if at all, next season.

Also, the title of the Rob Thomas song that was overlaying the final scene is "Unwell", not "I'm Not Crazy".

 

[Grendelsbayne]

This is easily the best season ending I've seen on a tv show in years. I mean, lately I've been disappointed so many times I've actually started wondering if it's just me - if I just became so critical that I'm now incapable of enjoying a good story without picking it apart. But that is emphatically not the case, because this one was just plain awesome. Smart, well written, funny, surprising. I especially loved seeing these characters deal with an actual zombie apocalypse situation (even though it was technically limited to a single building). And the military contractor reveal at the end was completely unexpected and creepy as hell.

Also, Clive refusing to become a zombie was awesome.

 

[DigificWriter]

As an aside, I hate the show for ruining Matchbox 20/Rob Thomas music for me forever... especially Unwell.

 

[Saga]

This is how a skull breaks!

 

[Christopher]

Also, the title of the Rob Thomas song that was overlaying the final scene is "Unwell", not "I'm Not Crazy".

Whoops, sorry. Whoever thought the title of a YouTube video would be misleading???

 

[cylkoth]

Hmmm...I need a little help with Major. Didn't he actually kill a few of the very first people on the Zombie hit list? I distinctly remember him dumping someone (Minor's owner?) off a bridge. It was later that we found out he started freezing later ''victims'' in hopes that Ravi's cure would work. So, did they just gloss over all that, concentrating only on the ones he stored away, no harm, no foul?

 

[Christopher]

Hmmm...I need a little help with Major. Didn't he actually kill a few of the very first people on the Zombie hit list? I distinctly remember him dumping someone (Minor's owner?) off a bridge. It was later that we found out he started freezing later ''victims'' in hopes that Ravi's cure would work. So, did they just gloss over all that, concentrating only on the ones he stored away, no harm, no foul?

No -- we were led to believe he was dumping bodies in the river, but then that was revealed to be a red herring. One of the people we saw him apparently dump (Blaine's father, I believe) was then shown being put in a freezer. So evidently he was faking the body dumps to make Vaughn think he was killing them. I'm not clear on why, though, since he was presumably doing them unobserved. That much is a plot hole, as far as I'm aware.

 

[cylkoth]

So evidently he was faking the body dumps to make Vaughn think he was killing them. I'm not clear on why, though, since he was presumably doing them unobserved. That much is a plot hole, as far as I'm aware.

Okay, thanks. It is kind of a cheat then, as we were never given an indication that Vaughn was having him watched.

 

[DigificWriter]

Vaughn was in fact keeping tabs on Major and his activities, as evidenced by the fact that all of the people he had told Vaughn he'd killed ended up being imprisoned in the Max Rager basement.

 

[Christopher]

Vaughn was in fact keeping tabs on Major and his activities, as evidenced by the fact that all of the people he had told Vaughn he'd killed ended up being imprisoned in the Max Rager basement.

Yeah, but Major didn't know that, otherwise he would never have thought he could've gotten away with hiding them there. The point is, if he didn't believe he was being surveilled by Max Rager, why did he go to the trouble of dumping fake bodies in the river? Who was he staging that for, aside from the TV audience?

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

A little late to the party but WOAH!! That was almost too much to process!

Loved that Clive is "in the know" and didn't give in to being scratched.

Ravi and Peyton needs to happen. Also, Ravi was so badass

It was great that Rita got to munch on Daddy's brains. Sad about her not surviving though.

It looked like the survivors didn't seem happy with Major... I wonder if they were going to attack him?

 

[Zaku]

How often should a zombie eat brains to stay lucid? I remember something like a brain every month? Is it correct?

I'm trying to do a little math here...