It's a fake

[USS Excelsior]

I know there's the plot to cater to but why didn't Sisko inspect the data rod himself before he passed it on to Vreenak, that way he would know in advance that it wouldn't pass inspection.

And plus their trick cost a little more than what was said since it would include the lives of the Romulan security guards that accompanied him as well.

 

[Withers]

He didn't let the guy who made it leave. He actually changed their bargain at the very last minute and said Tolar (or however it is spelled) couldn't go anywhere until the data rod passed its test at which point he was assured that it would. There's no way Sisko could have known what test a Romulan might use to verify the authenticity of any given object.

As to the lives it cost... it really goes even further than that if you think about it. Aside from crossing the Romulan border to attack Federation targets nothing the Dominion did made it seem as though the Romulan Empire was next after the Federation was toast. So every Romulan who died in the war is a body that can be added to the count.

Then there's the Garak factor. Depending on how devious he actually is doesn't he now have a token that could start a war between the Federation and the Romulans post the end of the Dominion War? If he wanted to get Cardassia out from under Federation/Klingon occupation that'd be a pretty good way to do it- start a war between the remaining major powers, while Cardassia rebuilds its fleet.

That's a pretty major gamble too if you know what I'm sayin'.

Either way I loved In the Pale Moonlight. I just think the implications of it go a lot deeper than they really had time to explore outside of that episode.


-Withers-​

 

[Rush Limborg]

I've often toyed with the idea that Vreenak didn't really know that it was a fake.

He just said it to watch Sisko's reaction. And, sadly, Ben didn't dissapoint.

 

[Hober Mallow]

Sisko should have countered with, "It's REEEEEEEEAAAAALLLL!!!"

 

[James Wright]

I've often toyed with the idea that Vreenak didn't really know that it was a fake.

He just said it to watch Sisko's reaction. And, sadly, Ben didn't dissapoint.

I've got to go with Rush Limborg on this one, don't ask me why, there was something about Vreenak that just said he would've
enjoyed the Federation's situation if the RSE stayed neutral or even joined the Dominion.

James

 

[Itisnotlogical]

I don't think Vreenak would have really known the Dominion leaders closely enough to have been able to tell that it was a fake short of some obvious physical defect in the features of the leaders, like the wrong eye color or voice. Also, I do think Vreenak, already being pro-Dominion, would have claimed it was a fake just to spite the Federation and possibly destroy a long-time enemy.

 

[USS Excelsior]

Sisko should have countered with, "It's REEEEEEEEAAAAALLLL!!!"

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lHgbbM9pu4[/yt]

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

I've often toyed with the idea that Vreenak didn't really know that it was a fake.

He just said it to watch Sisko's reaction. And, sadly, Ben didn't dissapoint.

I think that's likely...often, if someone gets called out falsely, they'll have no problem getting angry and firing right back about the false accusation, whereas a liar will try to probe to find out why you're saying that so they can come up with a story. (Doesn't work ALL of the time, but it does sometimes.)

 

[Rush Limborg]

^Well, at any rate, Sisko's look upon hearing, "It's a FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!"--the stunned look of, "Oooooooooooooh, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!", clinched it for Vreenak.

 

[Destructor]

Sisko should have countered with, "It's REEEEEEEEAAAAALLLL!!!"

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lHgbbM9pu4[/yt]

I am going to watch this on repeat for the rest of the day.

 

[Admiral Shran]

^ This is the work of a genius.

 

[Rush Limborg]

"It's a FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!"

"No, it ISN'T--It's REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAL!"

"It's a FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!"

"It's REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAL!"

"It's a FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!"

"It's REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAL!"

"It's a FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!"

"It's REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAL!"

"It's a FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!"

"Don't you understand???--It's REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAL! OHHHHHHHHHH--HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO--HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!"

 

[SoM]

I don't think Vreenak would have really known the Dominion leaders closely enough to have been able to tell that it was a fake short of some obvious physical defect in the features of the leaders, like the wrong eye color or voice.

I doubt that's what they were looking for -they'd look for evidence that the rod had been written to more recently than the timestamp would suggest, encoding errors, encryption inconsistancies, etc; along with scanning the rod atom-by-atom to tell if it was genuine and so forth. The actual holographic content itself would be the last thing to check.

 

[USS Excelsior]

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m87c_XBZPGc[/yt]

 

[Kai Winn]

when sisko entered the room he looked scared, tight, lacked confidence. vreenak might have decided in this moment only that it was a fake.

 

[Tiberius]

Love those videos. And the hip thing Garak was doing! Awesome!

 

[USS Excelsior]

I doubt that's what they were looking for -they'd look for evidence that the rod had been written to more recently than the timestamp would suggest, encoding errors, encryption inconsistancies, etc; along with scanning the rod atom-by-atom to tell if it was genuine and so forth. The actual holographic content itself would be the last thing to check.

Yea it was never said what would be inspected in the data rod.