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Poll Is this 32nd century a keeper?

Is this the real Future, or will it be reset?


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Syfy's Dark Matter never specified its date, but I think it was at least a millennium or two ahead.

IIRC the date was never stated explicitly, but in the time travel episode in season three, they travelled 600 years back into our present day, putting the show in the 27th century.
 
I have a feeling that Burnham & Discovery will travel back in time and fix "The Burn" some how.

Prevent Dilithium from going Inert and causing all StarFleet ships to go boom, and prevent the Dilithium from ever running out somehow with some form of Synthetic manufacturing of Dilithium.

Michael Burnham will be the savior of StarFleet & the Federation on 2x counts by the end of Season 4 at latest IMO.
 
I don't see any indication of a reset thus far.
There's no point in going back to attempt to solve "The Burn" if you don't know the exact cause of it.

You have to figure out what "Caused It". Ergo the giant Season long mystery that Michael Burnham will solve somehow.

Then she'll go back in time to right before "The Burn" and help StarFleet / Federation implement defenses against it and prevent it from ever happening again.
 
There's no point in going back to attempt to solve "The Burn" if you don't know the exact cause of it.

You have to figure out what "Caused It". Ergo the giant Season long mystery that Michael Burnham will solve somehow.

Then she'll go back in time to right before "The Burn" and help StarFleet / Federation implement defenses against it and prevent it from ever happening again.
I'll be very surprised if that's what happens.
 
There's no point in going back to attempt to solve "The Burn" if you don't know the exact cause of it.

You also have to figure out what caused it if you want to prevent it from happening again. Or if you just want to see the parties responsible brought to justice. The police routinely try to solve homicides, even though they can't go back in time to prevent them.


Then she'll go back in time to right before "The Burn"

How??? They made a point of having her throw away her one and only time-travel device, and of establishing that all other known forms of time travel were destroyed more than a century ago.
 
How??? They made a point of having her throw away her one and only time-travel device, and of establishing that all other known forms of time travel were destroyed more than a century ago.
As a writer, you're not really asking this question, are you? If someone in Star Trek wants to time travel, and they don't have a doohickey that they used last time, they'll use another doohickey. Slingshot around the sun, use the spore drive with dark matter, route chroniton particles through deflector dish... literally there are hundreds of ways they can still time travel. The questions is not HOW, they questions is WILL they or SHOULD they.
 
They should not. And I don't think they will. Otherwise, it opens Pandora's box (even more so) for not going back in time and stopping other cataclysms.
I disagree, if you have the power and can prevent cataclysmic events, and you choose not to do so; than that's just an act of moral cowardice.

If we can save Billions of lives by time traveling, I think it's worth the effort to attempt to make it better.

Kirk Sling-Shoted around the Sun and went back in time to grab some Whales to save Earth.

It prevented alot of bad things from happening to Earth.

I don't see anything wrong with Michael Burnham going back in time to save StarFleet & the UFP once she figures out and understands the cause of the problem and comes up with a proper solution towards it.
 
They should not. And I don't think they will. Otherwise, it opens Pandora's box (even more so) for not going back in time and stopping other cataclysms.
Buuut, if Discovery is going to last 2, 3, 10 more seasons wtf are they all going to be doing in 32nd century in an outdated ship like theirs? I like the idea of different century every new season...
 
I disagree, if you have the power and can prevent cataclysmic events, and you choose not to do so; than that's just an act of moral cowardice.

If we can save Billions of lives by time traveling, I think it's worth the effort to attempt to make it better.
Then all of our Trek crews are moral cowards.
Buuut, if Discovery is going to last 2, 3, 10 more seasons wtf are they all going to be doing in 32nd century in an outdated ship like theirs? I like the idea of different century every new season...
I do not.
 
Buuut, if Discovery is going to last 2, 3, 10 more seasons wtf are they all going to be doing in 32nd century in an outdated ship like theirs? I like the idea of different century every new season...
Discovery will get an under-the-hood refit. It'll have to if it they want Discovery to survive any ship battles. That's what Admiral Vance was going to immediately do initially. He wanted to retrofit the ship and separate the crew.

There's also the possibility that Zora will upgrade the ship internally herself (using knowledge from the scrolls and having it be done by the little repair drones), since she's determined to keep Discovery from being destroyed under any circumstances.
 
Do all of them know or have methods of time travel?

I'm pretty sure the formula for Sling-Shot Time Travel was classified.
Yes, they do. Kirk used a method for just "historical observation" and it was treated as a routine mission.

They are, therefore, moral cowards, who are unwilling to address large calamities in the past.
 
As a writer, you're not really asking this question, are you?

Yes, because as a writer, I can recognize the devices and narrative structures that other writers use in their work and the reasons that they use them. You can argue all you want about how the characters could time travel in theory, but it only happens if the writers want them to. And the fact that the writers so quickly and cavalierly wrote off time travel as an option in the first act of the season premiere couldn't be a clearer telegraph that they do not want this to be a time travel story. What interests the writers, what their attention all season has been focused on, is building the post-Burn world.

In series fiction, time travel resets are done to preserve the status quo of the series. The post-Burn 32nd century is the status quo now, the focus of an entire season. Therefore, erasing it with time travel would be the opposite of what time travel is usually used for as a story device. It's not just about what can happen in a story, it's about why things happen in stories, what purpose the storytellers intend them for.
 
Does that make them moral cowards then?
I'm fine with limiting the scope of time travel "Calamity Solving" to solving "Calamities of their time" on their watch.

Not going back in time to mess with historical events that they might not have the full scope of. And there are some points in time that are critical to getting the UFP to where it was, including bad things.
Since they are not going back in time to address the Eugenics Wars, perhaps?
Eugenics Wars & WW3 were necessary to get Zefram Cochrane to the point in his time to develop Warp Travel.

So messing about the Eugenics Wars & WW3 might not be a wise idea.
 
And the fact that the writers so quickly and cavalierly wrote off time travel as an option in the first act of the season premiere couldn't be a clearer telegraph that they do not want this to be a time travel story.

Writers state things all the times. Sometimes they stick to what they wrote, sometimes it ends being a red herring ;)
 
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