Hey, I'm with you in that. I'm not sure why they felt the need to keep up a 900 year old lie.
Is there a room aboard the Excelsior with pictures or models of past Excelsiors?
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Because the show is called Star Trek: Discovery?
I think it was because time travel is still considered a grave crime in the 32nd century (and not just by the Federation), and any person or ship that was found to have time traveled would be marked for destruction. Or something like that.
So the crew wouldn't be criminals.
And yet, it's almost an open secret that they're from the past.
I mean the only reason the Vulcans/Nivarians give Michael the level of respect she receives (and come to help against the Emerald Chain at the end) is because she's Spock's sister. And I think Michael even uses her past experience at the Vulcan Science Academy from the 23rd century for clout. Plus, Nivar isn't even part of the Federation at that point.
So who are they keeping the time-traveling secret from?
I mean the only reason the Vulcans/Nivarians give Michael the level of respect she receives (and come to help against the Emerald Chain at the end) is because she's Spock's sister. And I think Michael even uses her past experience at the Vulcan Science Academy from the 23rd century for clout. Plus, Nivar isn't even part of the Federation at that point.
So who are they keeping the time-traveling secret from?
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Was that the reason? Its been a minute since I watched season 3 od Discovery, so I'll take your word. Guess it's as good of a reason as any.
Yes, because time travel was illegal after the Temporal War.
You’d have to ask the producers.
And even that wasn't the Cage version, that was a shot from the main run of TOS. Oddly not in HD, but that's another topic.
Probably the Federation at large, to avoid a further unravelling of a fragile alliance due to hosting actual criminals. Yes, it could be argued that they Discovery's crew didn't know, but that wouldn't stop other powers from demanding Discovery be dismantled and destroyed due to violating the law.
So, it's a managed secret. Kind of like the phasing cloak.
So, there wasn't much named Excelsior, unless there were other Starships that were named Excelsior, like in Pic S3 only showed the Titan, Luna Titan, then Connie 3 titan, and also in LD the Titan Missle, some prototype ship, and the Loknar class Titan.
So maybe an NX Excelsior, or a Daedalus class Excelsior, or a Connie Excelsior.. Then you might have a wall or like Tmp a painting or picture gallery of past ships named Excelsior, So it is quite possible, but the name doesn't really go back to say an aircraft carrier or much of anything present day.
As for what Terry did with the Titan.. Meh, i've made my opinion known how much I loathed that entire escapade, and how i was shattered when they didn't use the Luna class, and how even more angry when they willy nilly renamed her Enterprise G. Grrrr.
So maybe an NX Excelsior, or a Daedalus class Excelsior, or a Connie Excelsior.. Then you might have a wall or like Tmp a painting or picture gallery of past ships named Excelsior, So it is quite possible, but the name doesn't really go back to say an aircraft carrier or much of anything present day.
As for what Terry did with the Titan.. Meh, i've made my opinion known how much I loathed that entire escapade, and how i was shattered when they didn't use the Luna class, and how even more angry when they willy nilly renamed her Enterprise G. Grrrr.
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Yeah, that's basically the reason. Though even that has some severe flaws with how it was executed. In particular, the Disco crew continued to wear their 23rd century uniforms throughout the entire third season, it's not until the finale of that season they switch to 32nd century uniforms. If they're trying to keep it a secret that Disco is from the 23rd century, letting the crew go around in 23rd century uniforms seem to defeat that purpose.
While it is true that nearly everyone seems to know Disco and crew are time travelers anyway, the situation with informing Ni'var was explained. After Ni'Var seceded from the Federation, they severed all diplomatic ties with them. But because Spock is still a revered figure among the entire population of Ni'var, Vulcan and Romulan alike, Admiral Vance granted permission to Michael to reveal the truth to Ni'var since being Spock's sister is the only reason why Ni'var would agree to meet with any Starfleet officer.
I don't see why. You're telling me no crew would ever wear vintage uniforms (like sports teams do) to commemorate their heritage, or for morale reasons?
They aren’t baseball teams.
Not getting into whether or not Starfleet is a military, but they do have uniforms for a reason and no, we’ve never seen, say, the TNG crew throw on TOS uniforms to commemorate something… or morale… (I mean, WTF? How would wearing a different shirt improve morale?)
The only thing that even comes close is DS9's crew wearing TOS uniforms to blend in with everyone else from that time period. For practical/mission reasons, not nostalgia.
Re the Titan / Titan-A situation, there is this background art by Dave Blass (Picard's production designer) that goes some way to explaining what went on:
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The thought being that the Titan-A is largely a new hull, but some components may have been salvaged from Riker's Titan after it was withdrawn from service after irreparable damage. Perhaps the computer cores, warp core, various other smaller bits and pieces. It's a 'refit' in a sense but it is also a 'salvage'.
It does make some level of sense in-universe given Utopia Planitia yards were destroyed over Mars.
It’s interesting, but…
Well, this. As Verteron also said, that’s not a refit. It’s a salvage operation.
Exactly. Much as when they replicate clothes for any historic period they travel back to.
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