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Is the term "British" offensive?

Calling somebody a European, Eurasian, North American, African, Oceanian, Asian, South American, or Antarctican is geographical, not cultural, in this context. You can say that Britain is not like the rest of Europe if you want, but those islands are still considered part of Europe by the entire world.
 
I'm not feeling particularly teary to be honest. Do you want me to move on because you are incapable of backing up your premise beyond 'it's what I think'?

No, I want you to move on because i've got a few years experience with this board that when people start focusing their attentions on my opinions in a thread the thread gets ruined and I don't want that to happen to this thread. I gave my opinion now i'm finished. Good day.

Actually I've had a few years experience lurking on this board (about 10 years I think) and I actually enjoy reading some of your threads. No offence but you've only attracted my attention in this thread because I think your argument is worth discussion.

If you are ever in Surbiton pop in and I'll make you a nice cup of tea.
 
On the topic at hand, I actually find the very notion of an offensive word for English people, or British people for that matter, to be absurd.

I seems almost conceited to take racial offense when you are sitting almost on top of the pack thanks to a few centuries of brutal imperialism :lol:
 
On the topic at hand, I actually find the very notion of an offensive word for English people, or British people for that matter, to be absurd.

I seems almost conceited to take racial offense when you are sitting almost on top of the pack thanks to a few centuries of brutal imperialism :lol:

In the great words of Vic Reeves (or was it Bob Mortimer) 'You wouldn't let it lie':p
 
^ Yeah, I think more is made of it than is necessary though. For the most part I think we all get along OK. If any one country was the most restless I'd say it was the Scottish, I have plenty of Welsh people in my family and quite a few friends from NI, and i've never encountered any real resistance to the idea of being a part of the UK.

I don't think it's a problem nowadays, it's turned into friendly banter, hopefully and the Scots are only ansty when they have the wind up their kilts ;)
I'll not forgive that landlady of the pub in Wales for reading out the raffle numbers in Welsh ~ I still don't know if I won that piece of coal :)
And you can forgive the Irish anything with that accent :lol:

I'm Scottish(two T's) and although when people ask me where I'm from i say Scotland, i have no problems or issues when I'm classed as a Brit or British....don't make any difference to me one bit.

Agreed. I'm from England, but also British.

And those people on the Isle of Wight are gonna be pretty pissed off.

And don't even think about The Isle of Man ~ they even have their own flag!

Oh and re your last post Pingfah ~ we'd still be great if we hadn't run out of flags lol!
 
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I could understand it if they'd called someone from Scotland English.
What has always ticked me off is when people refer to my country as "Holland". There is no such country! Holland is just an area consisting of two provinces.
I am a Netherlander!

I knew the Dutch prefer that (I once got a lengthy lecture on it), but I had no idea it was offensive to some. We usually say 'Holländer' in informal contexts, probably because it's shorter and we don't mean it as an offense.
Don't let my fellow countrymen know it's offensive, though, then it will never stop. :lol:
 
I think it's weird whenever people refer to Americans as "Yanks" because nobody in America uses that word. The only time I've ever actually heard it used by an American was when they were making fun of a foreigner for using it.
We use it in New England all the time. We even have a magazine. I love the term. :bolian:
 
I could understand it if they'd called someone from Scotland English.
What has always ticked me off is when people refer to my country as "Holland". There is no such country! Holland is just an area consisting of two provinces.
I am a Netherlander!

I knew the Dutch prefer that (I once got a lengthy lecture on it), but I had no idea it was offensive to some. We usually say 'Holländer' in informal contexts, probably because it's shorter and we don't mean it as an offense.
Don't let my fellow countrymen know it's offensive, though, then it will never stop. :lol:
It's mostly due to the fact that there's a bit of innocent rivalry between the west of the Netherlands (Randstad area) and the rest of the country. They of course don't mind people using the name Holland.
 
I think it's weird whenever people refer to Americans as "Yanks" because nobody in America uses that word. The only time I've ever actually heard it used by an American was when they were making fun of a foreigner for using it.
We use it in New England all the time. We even have a magazine. I love the term. :bolian:

I had to look it up as the only use (apart from some sort of sporting thing) I have ever known is negative, as in "Yankee go home!"

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language said:
The origin of Yankee has been the subject of much debate, but the most likely source is the Dutch name Janke, meaning "little Jan" or "little John," a nickname that dates back to the 1680s. Perhaps because it was used as the name of pirates, the name Yankee came to be used as a term of contempt. It was used this way in the 1750s by General James Wolfe, the British general who secured British domination of North America by defeating the French at Quebec. The name may have been applied to New Englanders as an extension of an original use referring to Dutch settlers living along the Hudson River. Whatever the reason, Yankee is first recorded in 1765 as a name for an inhabitant of New England. The first recorded use of the term by the British to refer to Americans in general appears in the 1780s, in a letter by Lord Horatio Nelson, no less. Around the same time it began to be abbreviated to Yank. During the American Revolution, American soldiers adopted this term of derision as a term of national pride. The derisive use nonetheless remained alive and even intensified in the South during the Civil War, when it referred not to all Americans but to those loyal to the Union. Now the term carries less emotion—except of course for baseball fans.
My emphasis.

From out of nowhere to contempt to pride to mainstream, something the word "gay" also has seen and the word "nigger" is in the process of...

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Um....what?:confused:

I can accept that you think I post stupid things (I do!) - But please don't call me stupid!

No, you misunderstood. I was not referring to you personally, just how humanity as a whole has become over-sensitive to the most stupid things.

And if you're worried about stupid posts, look up some of mine.
Oh, come on now, I was just being facetious -couldn't you tell without an emoticon?
 
The British also used to use the term "American" in a derogatory fashion around the time of the Revolution. I think it was Ben Franklin who first used it in a positive sense.
 
The British also used to use the term "American" in a derogatory fashion around the time of the Revolution. I think it was Ben Franklin who first used it in a positive sense.
Personally I find that particular term extremely egocentric -it never seems to even accept that anyone outside the US are also Americans...
 
I think it just came into use because United Statesian is kind of awkward. :D
 
^But it sounds so cute! You'd have a whole different image in the world! One with flowers and bunnies.
 
The British also used to use the term "American" in a derogatory fashion around the time of the Revolution. I think it was Ben Franklin who first used it in a positive sense.
Personally I find that particular term extremely egocentric -it never seems to even accept that anyone outside the US are also Americans...
We just don't really refer to ourselves in terms of our continent. The US, Canada, and Mexico are so huge that it just makes more to say Mexican or Canadian instead of referring to everyone as American.

If we're really going to use the term, we'd say North American or South American. Just calling someone an American could mean anywhere in the entire western hemisphere!
 
The British also used to use the term "American" in a derogatory fashion around the time of the Revolution. I think it was Ben Franklin who first used it in a positive sense.
Personally I find that particular term extremely egocentric -it never seems to even accept that anyone outside the US are also Americans...
We just don't really refer to ourselves in terms of our continent. The US, Canada, and Mexico are so huge that it just makes more to say Mexican or Canadian instead of referring to everyone as American.

If we're really going to use the term, we'd say North American or South American. Just calling someone an American could mean anywhere in the entire western hemisphere!
Americans come from the Americas; Canadians, US-Americans and Mexicans are from north America. I don't see it as a problem.

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I think it just came into use because United Statesian is kind of awkward. :D
Been there, done that, won't ever do it again -promise! :)

Just remember, we had two Germanys at some time; The BRD and the DDR -luckily we also had a world divided in East and West making it easier to distinguish those two by using those two simple words.
 
Even so, "America" is at least in the name of our country, so it's not really bad that we refer to ourselves as such.

And honestly, how often are you going to call someone an American when referring to, say, a Brazilian?
 
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