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Is The Incredibles overrated?

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I rewatched it last year and while it was good and entertaining, with some very good parts, I felt the characters came off as overly archetypal and the story also less than I remembered it; I especially didn't like how much more it seemed that Brad Bird identified with Bob than Helen, that it did try to make Helen seem too much like "the enemy here."
 
Helen the enemy? Really? I've watched it a lot and Helen just seems like a woman who's scared she'll lose her husband. She is pretty balanced, I think.
 
I admit the first time I saw it I wasn't overly impressed, but I've grown to love it more and more since then.

Still though, for some reason it's never really grabbed me as much as other Pixar movies have in the past, like Wall-E, Ratatouille, or the Toy Story movies. And that's even despite featuring superheroes and a cool James Bond theme.
 
I don't think its overrated. I watch it every so often, and I enjoy it the same as I did the first time I saw it. Its my favorite Pixar movie, and that's saying something because they've put out many great movies.
 
Helen the enemy? Really? I've watched it a lot and Helen just seems like a woman who's scared she'll lose her husband. She is pretty balanced, I think.
If anything she's the only reasonable character in the movie. Mr. Incredible is basically being motivated by his desire to relive his glory days of being a superhero. It does help provide for his family, but it's made very clear that he misses being the hero. Helen's motivation is keeping the family together. She suspected her husband was having an affair and ends up having to rescue him.

Really good movie though, if anything its underrated.
 
I rewatched it last year and while it was good and entertaining, with some very good parts, I felt the characters came off as overly archetypal and the story also less than I remembered it; I especially didn't like how much more it seemed that Brad Bird identified with Bob than Helen, that it did try to make Helen seem too much like "the enemy here."

No. Not overrated.

Helen isn't the enemy at all. She's a mother and a wife who cares deeply for her family.

Bob is the one putting that in jeopardy.

It's a very grow up story that kids can also enjoy.
 
I don't think The Incredible is overated. I'll admit, I haven't watched it in a while, but I don't see my opinion changing if next time I watch it.
I have to agree with what the other posters are saying about Helen. If you look at it from her perspective, then what's she's perfectly reasonable.
 
When it came out, I thought it was the best super hero movie made up to that point. I don't rewatch it constantly, but I still think it's good.
 
It's a terrific movie. The only thing I don't like about it is the killing of various evil henchmen. Superheroes shouldn't kill, certainly not casually or without remorse, and especially not in a kids' movie.
 
Helen the enemy? Really? I've watched it a lot and Helen just seems like a woman who's scared she'll lose her husband. She is pretty balanced, I think.
If anything she's the only reasonable character in the movie. Mr. Incredible is basically being motivated by his desire to relive his glory days of being a superhero.

Helen isn't the enemy at all. She's a mother and a wife who cares deeply for her family.

Bob is the one putting that in jeopardy.

And yet the point seemed to be that the glory days can and should be continued/revived as long as the rest of the family gets involved too.
 
Helen the enemy? Really? I've watched it a lot and Helen just seems like a woman who's scared she'll lose her husband. She is pretty balanced, I think.
If anything she's the only reasonable character in the movie. Mr. Incredible is basically being motivated by his desire to relive his glory days of being a superhero. It does help provide for his family, but it's made very clear that he misses being the hero. Helen's motivation is keeping the family together. She suspected her husband was having an affair and ends up having to rescue him.

Really good movie though, if anything its underrated.

It's a terrific movie. The only thing I don't like about it is the killing of various evil henchmen. Superheroes shouldn't kill, certainly not casually or without remorse, and especially not in a kids' movie.

I loved the movie too, but I'm taking these two posts together to highlight how surprisingly dark it was despite the usual vibrant Pixar show. How many children's movies have a subplot involving a supposed extramarital affair? In addition to the henchmen dying, scores of Mr. Incredible's friends and colleagues perished at Syndrome's hands. But that was a result of superheroes being persecuted like McCarthy's HUAC, too.

If anything, it was certainly daring and terrific adventure. But I sometimes wonder how I would have reacted to the film if I were maybe seven years old. Regardless of these concerns though, I do try to show it to my younger relatives of that age, especially if they've never seen the movie before.
 
When it first came out, my daughter was still quite young, 6 or 7. We were concerned about the violence for her, but she didn't seem to be bothered by that, realizing that it was a movie, therefore not real. But, she picked up on the possible marital problems, though she couldn't articulate what bothered her other than the "mommy and daddy didn't like each other like they should." She wouldn't rewatch the movie until she was about 10 because of that. Now, though, it's one that we talk about and watch once in a while.
 
Aside from the underlying hints at Objectivist ideology, which are easy enough to ignore, The Incredibles is one of the few existing movies that approaches absolutely perfect for its genre and milieu. No, it is not overrated, not even a little bit.
 
Heck no. I'd say it's underrated. It's got all the ingredients for a perfect film. It's a superhero movie, family drama and a Connery era James Bond film all wrapped nicely with a pretty little bow.
 
The Incredibles is a fantastic movie. It's the best Marvel movie ever made, just as Megamind is the best DC movie ever made. It's too bad the actual Marvel and DC movies aren't that good.
 
Aside from the underlying hints at Objectivist ideology, which are easy enough to ignore, The Incredibles is one of the few existing movies that approaches absolutely perfect for its genre and milieu. No, it is not overrated, not even a little bit.

Heh, Bird actually talked about that in an interview with IGN:

IGN DVD: Ok, I gotcha. One of the things I liked was Bob's frustration, when he talked about celebrating mediocrity, and Syndrome's comment that if everyone is super, then no one is. Do you think people picked up on that point?

Bird: I think so. I think it got misinterpreted a few times. Some people said it was Ayn Rand or something like that, which is ridiculous. other people threw Nietzsche around, which I also find ridiculous. But I think the vast majority of people took it the way I intended. Some people said it was sort of a right-wing feeling, but I think that's as silly of an analysis as saying The Iron Giant was left-wing. I'm definitely a centrist and feel like both parties can be absurd.

IGN DVD: How in the world can you see The Iron Giant as left-wing?

Bird: It was one New York paper, not the Times, I don't remember which one, but a reviewer said the Iron Giant represented Russia and that my standpoint was that Russia was just a cuddly friend and we never should have had nuclear missiles against Russia, and he said that was a ridiculous thing, that Russia was dangerous. And I'm sitting here thinking "You think the Iron Giant is Russia? Where the hell did you get that?" But you can't control how people interpret your stuff. Have you ever met someone and you say something nice to them and they make a face and are deeply offended? You just don't know how people are going to take things. Ninty-eight percent of the people got that stuff the way I intended and two percent thought I was doing The Fountainhead or Atlas Shrugged.
 
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