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Is the bridge at a funny angle?

@Mytran Interesting idea about the lights but I don't think we are shown enough to conclude that. Since both of the lights over Uhura go out and not just the port one, one can easily say that it is the rear lights that powered by the port bus and the forward lights that are powered by the starboard bus. (That's how I would do it so that each perimeter side would have some lighting.)

As for other bridges, I don't find their designs relevant. Some of those bridges had access to ready rooms, which this bridge lacks; some had multiple exits, which this bridge lacks; some had ops and tactical stations, which this bridge lacks; and some combined nav and helm, which this bridge doesn't. So I don't think using them to generalize here works but YMMV.
Ultimately, the simplest to me is a round bridge with a dome-shaped ceiling fitting in the dome that it was designed to fit in, even if that means the bridge is canted. Especially since the alternatives include significantly up-sizing the ship or pushing the bridge so far down into the B/C superstructure that you are left wondering why the bridge is round and dome-shaped.
 
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We actually don't know that.

Some of those stations on the port side might have been ops or tactical. The one closest to the turbolift is, IIRC, engineering, but the others were never explained.
Fair enough, though I was only thinking of the prominent, front-facing consoles. Amended.
 
@Mytran Interesting idea about the lights but I don't think we are shown enough to conclude that. Since both of the lights over Uhura go out and not just the port one, one can easily say that it is the rear lights that powered by the port bus and the forward lights that are powered by the starboard bus. (That's how I would do it so that each perimeter side would have some lighting.)
But that's my point - Uhura's console being tied to the portside lighting circuit makes perfect sense if she was on the centreline but no sense at all if she were on the starboard side, which she absolutely would be if the turbolift alcove was centred.

Ultimately, the simplest to me is a round bridge with a dome-shaped ceiling fitting in the dome that it was designed to fit in, even if that means the bridge is canted. Especially since the alternatives include significantly up-sizing the ship or pushing the bridge so far down into the B/C superstructure that you are left wondering why the bridge is round and dome-shaped.
Even simpler is to put the turbolift doors behind Kirk, which has the advantage of a forward facing AND symmetrical work area! ;)
 
Some of those stations on the port side might have been ops or tactical. The one closest to the turbolift is, IIRC, engineering, but the others were never explained.
Descriptions of all the bridge stations can be found on page 172 of TMOST (if you want to consider it canon) and on Michael McMaster's bridge plans.

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It's interesting the types of stations that Kirk would see when in the "centre seat".
On his right he has weapons and defence; on his left environmental systems and engineering sub-systems. Since weapons are usually handled by the helmsman, this makes most of the stations he can see from his chair (when facing the main viewscreen) redundant or at least of secondary importance. Maybe the myriad of small viewscreens display information crucial to the captain's role?

Slightly on the periphery of the captain's vision are the navigational sub-systems console and the engineering station. This makes me wonder what function the smaller engineering sub-system console has, since the main engineering console can be seen at a glance. No wonder it was chosen to go during the TAS refit! ;)
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Behind his shoulder is the science station (which often has the main sensors readout) and the communications station. Communications you could get away with not seeing I suppose (merely shouting order at the officer) but considering the regular importance of the science station to missions of the Enterprise, tucking it round the back is an odd choice, to say the least. It's even more isolated in the TMP refit! :eek:

However, I'm sure all these impractical location choices made for more dramatic scenes, so that's okay :devil:
 
It's interesting the types of stations that Kirk would see when in the "centre seat".
On his right he has weapons and defence; on his left environmental systems and engineering sub-systems. Since weapons are usually handled by the helmsman, this makes most of the stations he can see from his chair (when facing the main viewscreen) redundant or at least of secondary importance. Maybe the myriad of small viewscreens display information crucial to the captain's role?

Slightly on the periphery of the captain's vision are the navigational sub-systems console and the engineering station. This makes me wonder what function the smaller engineering sub-system console has, since the main engineering console can be seen at a glance. No wonder it was chosen to go during the TAS refit! ;)
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Behind his shoulder is the science station (which often has the main sensors readout) and the communications station. Communications you could get away with not seeing I suppose (merely shouting order at the officer) but considering the regular importance of the science station to missions of the Enterprise, tucking it round the back is an odd choice, to say the least. It's even more isolated in the TMP refit! :eek:

However, I'm sure all these impractical location choices made for more dramatic scenes, so that's okay :devil:
TAS actually makes a huge difference to the basic debate here. Because that extra turbolift added in should mean an extra bulge on the bridge dome exterior.

If it really is a turbolift. In the FJ plans, it's a door to a narrow corridor surrounding the bridge (not unlike what we see in Discovery). And Trek has fudged turbolifts before, in "The Battle" we see the TNG crew walk into the Stargazer set from out of sight in the turbolift as it it were the end of a corridor.
 
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I'm a noob. :confused: I, too, have never noticed that the nub is gone in TAS. I checked several other episodes on TrekCore (there's probably only about 6 Enterprise views reused in all episodes), and the nub is missing in those episodes I looked at, but I did not look at all of them. Good catch, @BK613. :techman:

If it is I guess it canonizes the bulge not being the turbolift at all, finally!
So, the nub could had been something else such as the sublight radio antenna (its location is directly behind the communications station), maybe the launch tube for the recorder beacon (which could be associated with the communications station, too), or as I feel appropriate, the escape hatch for the turbolift lifeboat/cars. Between TOS-R and TAS, methinks the Enterprise is getting bigger...
 
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By the way, didn’t they actually film the actual model for the beauty shots in TAS? If this is the case this difference is really odd.
 
FJ's plans and the tech manual aren't "canonical" so, nope. :)

Some of it is. It's shown up on screen. And I think it's been referenced by name on LD. I'm not going to get my underwear in a knot over canon, but regardless of Gene's Vi$ion, FJ's work is at least partly canon, and continues to be used as a reference for the shows even now.
 
By the way, didn’t they actually film the actual model for the beauty shots in TAS? If this is the case this difference is really odd.

I've never heard this, but it is conceivably true. The Smithsonian didn't get her until 1974. She was apparently in sad shape when they got her, though, which would tend to point toward years of abuse rather than one year.
 
I've never heard this, but it is conceivably true. The Smithsonian didn't get her until 1974. She was apparently in sad shape when they got her, though, which would tend to point toward years of abuse rather than one year.
Right, but Mytran’s idea that they rotoscoped stock footage seems very sensible, given the kind of budget TAS had.

Hollywood is famous for taking bad care of their prop, so no surprise it was in bad shape. The refit enterprise was pretty beaten up itself by the fifth movie.
 
I'm pretty sure the TAS artists took 35mm frames of the TOS Enterprise from Majel's company Lincoln Enterprises, projected them onto the drawing board, and traced them line for line. Beautifully, too. The missing nub is a just a curio, but nice to know about.
 
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