Is Tarrentino over-rated?
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The problem seems to be people expect high art out of the guy, or want him to grow up. That's not the point. Tarantino makes fun, violent, schlocky movies. You ever love it or you don't.
I've loved all his movies. I think anyone who considers him one of the greatest directors ever is overating him, but his current popularity and success is more than well deserved. I vote no
I've loved all his movies. I think anyone who considers him one of the greatest directors ever is overating him, but his current popularity and success is more than well deserved. I vote no
I would say the same thing about Harvey Keitel's character in From Dusk 'Till Dawn.
I'm not a huge Tarantino fan. I think he's an overrated director, a good writer, and an underrated character actor (who may only be able to play one character, but still, it's a unique one). I enjoy much of his dialogue but his movies are often too gruesome for my taste. While I respect him as a filmmaker, his reputation annoys me because so many people seem to think his work has this amazing depth to it or something. I don't see that. I think he makes fun movies but they rarely count for anything besides fun. Now, that's not a bad thing by any means. I just think it sucks that he gets all this critical acclaim & Oscar buzz that you don't see for Joe Dante or Robert Rodriguez or James Cameron. (OK, Cameron won an Oscar for Titanic. But compared to Aliens, The Terminator, & Terminator 2; Titanic was probably his least deserving film.)
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Yes, he was instantly overrated when Pulp Fiction came out. He is still overrated by some people, especially hardcore fans and people who want to be him. (Hardcore fans overrate somebody? REALLY? 
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I can't deny his directing ablility and I can enjoy his movies for what they are. But the hero-worshipping and film-major asskissery reviews of everything he does...I'm better off avoiding. Many of these twits who praise him are posuers, praising Tarantino's pop culture references to old films and b-movie genres they wouldn't be caught dead watching.
As long as he makes interesting looking movies, I'm willing to give them a shot.
) I can't deny his directing ablility and I can enjoy his movies for what they are. But the hero-worshipping and film-major asskissery reviews of everything he does...I'm better off avoiding. Many of these twits who praise him are posuers, praising Tarantino's pop culture references to old films and b-movie genres they wouldn't be caught dead watching.
As long as he makes interesting looking movies, I'm willing to give them a shot.
Uuuummmmmm..........no he's not.
Really.
And maybe you don't know what "media" is. Look it up.
And you didn't get that job because the other candidate was the boss's nephew.
And this establishes all we need to know about your (lack of) knowledge about Tarantino or his films. Well, that, and your misspelling of his name.
Or they have a better understanding of the subject matter than you do.
Amen to that!
I thought Pulp Fiction was a very good film. I also enjoyed Dusk till Dawn. My OH told me not to watch Reservoir Dogs or Kill Bill because they aren't my kind of thing.
We went to see Inglorious last month and it was terrific. I don't know what the hype is because he makes very successful films and continues to be popular.
The poll is useless since there is no middle ground.
We went to see Inglorious last month and it was terrific. I don't know what the hype is because he makes very successful films and continues to be popular.
The poll is useless since there is no middle ground.
I thought Pulp Fiction was a very good film. I also enjoyed Dusk till Dawn. My OH told me not to watch Reservoir Dogs or Kill Bill because they aren't my kind of thing.
We went to see Inglorious last month and it was terrific. I don't know what the hype is because he makes very successful films and continues to be popular.
The poll is useless since there is no middle ground.
We went to see Inglorious last month and it was terrific. I don't know what the hype is because he makes very successful films and continues to be popular.
The poll is useless since there is no middle ground.
The poll is flawed because the answer lies between the two.
Pulp Fiction is, in my opinion, still one of the greatest films ever made, but he's never come close to equalling it, and I don't think he will until he learns to reign himself in and edit his flourishes down somewhat. He also could do with deciding what film he wants to make and try sticking to it--presently he seems to want to have his cake and eat it. Kill Bill as a hong kong actionier that turns into a western kinda works because the two halves were seperated out (part one is great, part two stinks) but with Deathproof and Inglorious there's no distinction. The first half of DP is actually quite a dark, creepy horror film, with Stuntman Mike a wonderful character. The second half turns into a bright, cheesy revenge flick and suddenly Mike's become a bumbling idiot, rather than the cold calculating psycho he was in the first half. Similarly with Inglourious QT seems to be melding a gritty and realistic war film, with some kind of silly, ultraviolent slapstick, and it doesn't work. There are parts of IB that are fantastic (the opening scene and especially the beer kellar scene) and some great characters; shosana, Michael Fassbender's wonderful British Agent, Landa and the German sniper, oh and also Stiglitz, but then we get Brad Pitt channelling David Tennant and MArlon Brando and gurning at the screen while Eli Roth channels Zachery quinto! By all means make a cheesy war film, but don't try and jam it togeather with a serious one. Same with Death Proof, either make a horror film or a revenge flick, or at least try and match the tone of each half so its less jarring.
I'm also annoyed by his need to emasculate his own bad guys. As stated Stuntman Mike is terrifying in the first half of Death Proof then becomes an idiot. Similarly Landa is a highly intelligent, resoursefaul, almost Holmesian character, who bacially becomes an idiot later on and is outwitted by Brad Pitt's moron Aldo Raine.
He's a good director, but he annoys because he could be great. Del Toro is better because he makes Pans Labyrinth, then makes Hellboy 2, QT would somehow try and merge the two films togeather.
Pulp Fiction is, in my opinion, still one of the greatest films ever made, but he's never come close to equalling it, and I don't think he will until he learns to reign himself in and edit his flourishes down somewhat. He also could do with deciding what film he wants to make and try sticking to it--presently he seems to want to have his cake and eat it. Kill Bill as a hong kong actionier that turns into a western kinda works because the two halves were seperated out (part one is great, part two stinks) but with Deathproof and Inglorious there's no distinction. The first half of DP is actually quite a dark, creepy horror film, with Stuntman Mike a wonderful character. The second half turns into a bright, cheesy revenge flick and suddenly Mike's become a bumbling idiot, rather than the cold calculating psycho he was in the first half. Similarly with Inglourious QT seems to be melding a gritty and realistic war film, with some kind of silly, ultraviolent slapstick, and it doesn't work. There are parts of IB that are fantastic (the opening scene and especially the beer kellar scene) and some great characters; shosana, Michael Fassbender's wonderful British Agent, Landa and the German sniper, oh and also Stiglitz, but then we get Brad Pitt channelling David Tennant and MArlon Brando and gurning at the screen while Eli Roth channels Zachery quinto! By all means make a cheesy war film, but don't try and jam it togeather with a serious one. Same with Death Proof, either make a horror film or a revenge flick, or at least try and match the tone of each half so its less jarring.
I'm also annoyed by his need to emasculate his own bad guys. As stated Stuntman Mike is terrifying in the first half of Death Proof then becomes an idiot. Similarly Landa is a highly intelligent, resoursefaul, almost Holmesian character, who bacially becomes an idiot later on and is outwitted by Brad Pitt's moron Aldo Raine.
He's a good director, but he annoys because he could be great. Del Toro is better because he makes Pans Labyrinth, then makes Hellboy 2, QT would somehow try and merge the two films togeather.
These two were good, but Reservoir Dogs is his best by far.
Yup, and the murder of Diane Kruger's character seemed odd as well.
This. However, I vote yes.
Tarantino makes movies about movies for people who have seen too many movies. I appreciate the effort, even if it doesn't all come together for him as in Deathproof. I didn't really care for it, but I'm still glad I saw it.
I'm in-between. Some of his films are good, others I don't care for as much. Overall I like his stuff more than dislike it.
Well said. It sounds like a lot of people on here just don't get his style, or what he's trying to do with his movies.
I see Tarantino as kind of like an Elmore Leonard. He's not after anything terribly deep or profound with his stories-- he just wants to take the audience on a fun ride with some interesting and unpredictable characters.
That's not to say he's not a real filmmaker though. All you have to do is look at the opening scene in Inglourious Basterds to see that he KNOWS how to move the camera and tell a story.
That scene is proof enough for me that he is in NO way overrated.
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