Is Star Trek Interracially revolutionary?

[Amaris]

I have absolutely no idea.

You should get some idea, if you expect anyone to take what you say seriously.

My idea is that this is obviously not a textbook quote. Certainly nothing addressed to the public. It's possible that it's a "misquote". It's possible that it's sort of an urban legend. It's possible that it's been completely made up.

Even if it was made up, that doesn't change my position that ethnicity has historically been a major factor in the election of our presidents, our current president being a drastic ground breaker.

If you're truly questioning my stance, then that would bring up the question as to what is your opinion? Do you think Americans always had a melting-pot mentality to where ethnicity played no part? Or do you think there was a significant/drastic or gradual cut-off somewhere (60's, 70's, 80's...)?

Of course I'm also not that sure if it's an issue of my stance, or an issue of loosely throwing out an FDR quote he may not have made? Is this an offense to FDR issue? Do you feel I need to make some sort of apology?

"I love hyphens and underscores. They represent my meticulous and generous nature." - Hitler to his General Staff, Nuremberg, 1938

And before you ask, I'm very sure he said this.

 

[Balrog]

Even if it was made up, that doesn't change my position that ethnicity has historically been a major factor in the election of our presidents, our current president being a drastic ground breaker.

It might change what people think FDR ACTUALLY believed, however...

... or something...

 

[Gov Kodos]

I have absolutely no idea.

You should get some idea, if you expect anyone to take what you say seriously.

My idea is that this is obviously not a textbook quote. Certainly nothing addressed to the public. It's possible that it's a "misquote". It's possible that it's sort of an urban legend. It's possible that it's been completely made up.

Even if it was made up, that doesn't change my position that ethnicity has historically been a major factor in the election of our presidents, our current president being a drastic ground breaker.

If you're truly questioning my stance, then that would bring up the question as to what is your opinion? Do you think Americans always had a melting-pot mentality to where ethnicity played no part? Or do you think there was a significant/drastic or gradual cut-off somewhere (60's, 70's, 80's...)?

Of course I'm also not that sure if it's an issue of my stance, or an issue of loosely throwing out an FDR quote he may not have made? Is this an offense to FDR issue? Do you feel I need to make some sort of apology?

Arguing from fallacy and distortion doesn't lend credence to your position, nor does it promote much but contempt for you.

 

[cooleddie74]

"Somebody fetch me that eight ball of heroin. I wanna get tore up and trash the mansion." -California Governor Jerry Brown, 1978

"Get out of my face before I introduce this laboratory to the Theory of Butt Whooping. Don't test me, punk." -Albert Einstein, Geneva, 1930

"The theater? Do we have to? Vice President Johnson wants to teach Secretary Stanton his wine cork trick. I want to see it." -Abraham Lincoln, the morning of April 14, 1865


Don't you dare tell me they never said any of this. I grew up with these.

 

[Balrog]

"Lenin Sux!" - Plato's Twitter feed, 330 BC

 

[Count Zero]

But start using multi-quotes.

Yes, please do, Hyphen_ Underskor. Multiple posts in a row are considered spamming and against the rules according to the FAQ (the fan fiction subforum excluded).

"I love hyphens and underscores. They represent my meticulous and generous nature." - Hitler to his General Staff, Nuremberg, 1938

That goes a bit far, doesn't it?

Now that you've all had fun with making up fake quotes, let's get back on topic.

 

[T'Girl]

“This is an English and Dutch country! Everyone else is here on sufferance,” - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

The source of this FDR quote is...?

The quote is word for word repeated here, it from a July 25, 2012 piece NBC Chicago did on a unnamed Mitt Romney adviser. Can't say if the NBC quote is accurate, it about a third of the way down.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 1933-1945: A fifth cousin of Theodore Roosevelt, FDR was also descended from Claes Rosenvelt. His mother, Sara Delano, was descended from Dutch Pilgrims who arrived in America shortly after the Mayflower. In the White House, Roosevelt once railed, “This is an English and Dutch country! Everyone else is here on sufferance.”

Source:

http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/war...axon-Presidents--163699306.html#ixzz2ICFvn0x5

 

[Gov Kodos]

“This is an English and Dutch country! Everyone else is here on sufferance,” - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

The source of this FDR quote is...?

The quote is word for word repeated here, it from a July 25, 2012 piece NBC Chicago did on a unnamed Mitt Romney adviser. Can't say if the NBC quote is accurate, it about a third of the way down.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 1933-1945: A fifth cousin of Theodore Roosevelt, FDR was also descended from Claes Rosenvelt. His mother, Sara Delano, was descended from Dutch Pilgrims who arrived in America shortly after the Mayflower. In the White House, Roosevelt once railed, “This is an English and Dutch country! Everyone else is here on sufferance.”

Source:

http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/war...axon-Presidents--163699306.html#ixzz2ICFvn0x5

An Internet blogger says x... so? How is that a credible source? And what does a President dead decades before the show have to do with Star Trek?

 

[Amaris]

But start using multi-quotes.

Yes, please do, Hyphen_ Underskor. Multiple posts in a row are considered spamming and against the rules according to the FAQ (the fan fiction subforum excluded).

"I love hyphens and underscores. They represent my meticulous and generous nature." - Hitler to his General Staff, Nuremberg, 1938

That goes a bit far, doesn't it?

Yes, it does. In this case, my point was that not bothering to source quotes, or even to gauge any kind of accuracy, is just as bad as any kind of hyperbole because an unsourced, unchecked quote can lead to the most idiotic of assumptions, and so I used some serious hyperbole to make my point. I meant no offense, of course.

Now that you've all had fun with making up fake quotes, let's get back on topic.

Will do!