As of 2006, DVD sales of the five seasons of B5 topped over half a billion dollars. Somebody was watching. Nice trolling attempt, though.
Is Star Trek homophobic?
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As of 2006, DVD sales of the five seasons of B5 topped over half a billion dollars. Somebody was watching. Nice trolling attempt, though.
Okay, even as a huge Babylon 5 fan, I gotta hand it to you - that was funny.
I'd point out that Star Trek on several occasions did show people with impairments (or whatever the PC terminology is these days), going as far back as Christopher Pike. There's also Riva. Even if it's just those two, that's two more occasions than we have of Trek portraying anyone as being explicitly non-straight without an exceptional circumstance.
The reality is that Trek could have shown non-straight people in -some- capacity and -chose- not to. I wouldn't necessarily call that homophobic, but certainly avoidant, especially when they try to throw the gays a bone with their "metaphor" episodes...and the more I think about it the more patronizing those feel.
The reality is that Trek could have shown non-straight people in -some- capacity and -chose- not to. I wouldn't necessarily call that homophobic, but certainly avoidant, especially when they try to throw the gays a bone with their "metaphor" episodes...and the more I think about it the more patronizing those feel.
Could have? They still could in the next movie.
Hmmm ... off the top of my head, besides Pike and Riva, there was also Captain April, who eventually got younger and cured ... the Admiral in Too Short a Season, the "handicapped" Melora in the episode of the same name, even in the Abomination, the guy that supposedly invented the transporter was in a wheelchair.
But no gays? Right.
I couldn't care less... If I did, I'd be a racist fuck...
You know- it's actually not impossible for a white man to not be insecure about being around or experiencing people of other cultures.
But then again, you're equating a sexual preference with that of race? You're suggesting that if there was no white people shown in all of star trek, that makes them racist?
Unfortunately, that's not quite the same as sexual orientation. Because there could have been a gay person at every other turn, but YOU'RE assuming that they were all straight because they didn't say they were gay or look gay?
Way to feed the stereotype... that's just sad and pathetic.
IMO,...no it wasn't "homophobic"
I just don't get this OBSESSION that some posters on this board and yet very many others have an incessant need for a Gay character/characters to be in Star Trek.
Is it a childlike reaction to be nationally accepted in the mainstream media? Although I am not homophobic in any way shape or form, I totally disagree with these posts.....
I just don't get this OBSESSION that some posters on this board and yet very many others have an incessant need for a Gay character/characters to be in Star Trek.
Is it a childlike reaction to be nationally accepted in the mainstream media? Although I am not homophobic in any way shape or form, I totally disagree with these posts.....
Obviously, Star Trek is also islamophobic.
That was what I was thinking exactly about your initial response. However yours was singular and brief, and therefore warranted no further response then the one I gave.
I'd thank you for validating my statement as true, but I don't know you and couldn't care less.
IMO,...no it wasn't "homophobic"
I just don't get this OBSESSION that some posters on this board and yet very many others have an incessant need for a Gay character/characters to be in Star Trek.
Is it a childlike reaction to be nationally accepted in the mainstream media? Although I am not homophobic in any way shape or form, I totally disagree with these posts.....
How would you feel if -every- character on Star Trek was clearly shown as being gay? That's about as realistic as nobody on Trek being openly gay given the number of characters we have to work with.
How about if no character ever engaged in any sort of romantic relations? Hey, at least that way we'd balance the scales. No hand holding, no kissing, no falling in love, no weddings.
I just don't get how people can't understand how some Trek fans might want to see someone portrayed on the show with whom they have something fundamental in common.
Obviously, to call it an obsession or childlike is in most cases an unfair exaggeration. Particularly if referring to anyone who is discussing it in a thread specifically created with the topic in mind.
This is exactly what I want out of Star Trek!
So the only thing a gay person can have fundamentally in common with another person is being gay?
IMO,...no it wasn't "homophobic"
I just don't get this OBSESSION that some posters on this board and yet very many others have an incessant need for a Gay character/characters to be in Star Trek.
Is it a childlike reaction to be nationally accepted in the mainstream media? Although I am not homophobic in any way shape or form, I totally disagree with these posts.....
Oh I don't know...maybe NOT watch it? Like I said I am not a homophobe, nut it's definitely "NOT MY CUP OF TEA".
that's a shame...
You lost me on that one...you would rather have a gay character than a show with all those possibilities you just mentioned?
Which brings us back to the "nationally accepted" part of my arguement....
One of the biggest cop-outs ever. I do recall someone involved in the show making a sarcastic comment like, "How will we know they're gay? Have the crewmembers wear pink triangles," or some such comment. The main reason that's so offensive is that the Nazis made gay people wear pink triangles in the concentration camps.
I think that Spock and Kirk were closet Homosexuals.
If you notice the way they acted around each other, you can totally tell.
You may think I am just another Spirk fangirl.
I am not(Ignore the username, I just use that for everything)
I was a sceptic at first, but now, watching all of the episodes, I believe they are truly, T'Hy'La's.
Especially in The Apple.
And in the motion picture, when Spock grabs Kirks hand and begins telling him about a simple feeling. (EEEEK)
If you notice the way they acted around each other, you can totally tell.
You may think I am just another Spirk fangirl.
I am not(Ignore the username, I just use that for everything)
I was a sceptic at first, but now, watching all of the episodes, I believe they are truly, T'Hy'La's.
Especially in The Apple.
And in the motion picture, when Spock grabs Kirks hand and begins telling him about a simple feeling. (EEEEK)
I personally hoped for a new series or movie with a new crew, with gay Captain, very religious crewmember, whatever, something that mirrors our present time. But no, they returned to Kirk and Spock to the 60s.
Do you think he didn't know that? He probably did and thats what informed the comment.
I was so close to posting this myself, but I didn't want to be the one to open that can
It seems they cover a larger percentage of the world's population than homosexuality does. Are Trek saying that they're all eradicated in the future? So why is homosexuality the one thing some people dwell on?
As someone who lives outside of the US (*shock*), I'll say that the representation of the world in Trek seems to be woeful far beyond just homosexuality. Throw in the occasional Scottish or British guy, but basically America is the world.
Then it'd be called Torchwood
Well it is produced in the United States for American consumption. So it would stand to reason that it the characters would be primarily American.
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