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Is Paramount quietly killing GI Joe?

it is.

Can I go slightly off topic and ask a general GI Joe question?

I've never watched the cartoon, read the comics or played with the toys so forgive my ignorance but is GI Joe an actual character or just the collective name for the 'good guys'? In the photos I've seen of the movie I haven't seen a character called 'Joe'!

GI Joe is a series of toylines dating from the 1960s to today, which over the years went from a bunch of generic military figures at 12in tall to a series of 3 3/4in tall 'character' figures depicting a rapid-deployment counter-terrorist team dedicated to defending America from the forces of Cobra, a ruthless terrorist organisation bent of world domination which were sold under the 'A Real American Hero' branding. Subsequent to the cancellation of the ARAH line in the early 1990s, the figures were slightly enlarged and became about Sgt Savage and his Screaming Eagles, before reverting to the Joes VS Cobra 'plot' and the 3 3/4 in size in the late '90s in a series of lines subtitled 'Valor VS Venom' and 'Sigma 6' at various points.

in the ARAH continuity, G.I. Joe was founded initially in 1963 by JFK under the leadership of one Joseph Colton, a US Army green beret lieutenant, who later wound up as a general appearing in the battle with Cobra. Since Cobra didn't appear until the '80s, what Colton's unit was doing, I don't know. (i only know Colton and his story from #150 of the comic)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Joseph_Colton_(G.I._Joe)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GI_Joe

(more info here)

If you look at the early issues of the Marvel run of the comic, GI JOE is the code name for Special Operations Group Delta (aka the real-life Delta Force). In the 80s most operational details about SF were still heavily shrouded in secrecy, and a lot of room was left to "play" with the concept...

To directly answer your question, I would assume in the "Joe-verse" it did the same sorts of things SF do in real life to one degree or another. With the rise of Cobra Command, it became a mission specific task force.

That said, they ought to re-release the first Movie in theaters and re-release the series on DVD (this time without Rhino's "improvements")...
 
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I'm really not interested in seeing this one. The cast just seems like a big joke to me. How could little bohemian hoochie Sienna Miller be Baroness? And it is an origins, meaning they hope to sequel it to death. Why not just start out with the established?
 
I'm really not interested in seeing this one. The cast just seems like a big joke to me. How could little bohemian hoochie Sienna Miller be Baroness? And it is an origins, meaning they hope to sequel it to death. Why not just start out with the established?

Because you can't have a successful movie with just the fanbase alone as large as it may be.

You need to attract new viewers and they need to understand what the movie is about and who the characters are so they get a good experience and not go WTF every 5 minutes when a new character walks in and his background is never explained.
 
Well the weekend GI Joe premieres, it'll be featured prominently on TrekBBS TV & Media. Just saying... :)

Actually it might end up in Sci Fi, since the movie is geared more toward science fiction.

Seriously? Link if so.
I cant' tell if your making commentary or trying to clue us all into something you've read.

While IDMB isn't exactly the greatest, from their trivia section:

Channing Tatum originally didn't want to act in this film because he felt it glorified war. When he read the script, however, he understood the story was more a sci-fi action thriller than a war film. He was also encouraged to sign on by his friend and Stop-Loss (2008)-co-star Joseph Gordon-Levitt.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1046173/trivia


But better than that:

http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp/aid/7306/tcid/1

[FONT=Verdana]You know, G. I. Joe, I was originally opposed to it. Especially coming off of Stop-Loss, playing a soldier about a really sensitive topic? I had no interest in going to play a fake soldier in a hyper-real kind of fantasy war. I was just like, “Nope. No thanks”, and then it came back around and I met on it and I read the script finally and the script was great. It actually has nothing to do with war, nothing to do at all. It’s X-Men and Mission Impossible, Star Wars. That’s how it is.


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[FONT=Verdana]Crap! *sighs*

MARS now makes laser guns! YAY!

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plot descriptions also suggest it's set 10 years in the future and feature some kind of exo-suit that allows the wearer to run at speeds equivalent to a car, as there's a car chase involving one guy in one.
 
plot descriptions also suggest it's set 10 years in the future and feature some kind of exo-suit that allows the wearer to run at speeds equivalent to a car, as there's a car chase involving one guy in one.

Unfortunately it seems that Paramount doesn't understand GI Joe. They believe that it is a science fiction movie akin to X-Men with some grounding in reality while in truth it is a movie about a war with some science fiction.
 
You know it's been so long since i last watched GI Joe as a kid i remember very little...

Did they ever show what was hidden behind the Cobra leader's mask ?
 
Unfortunately it seems that Paramount doesn't understand GI Joe. They believe that it is a science fiction movie akin to X-Men with some grounding in reality while in truth it is a movie about a war with some science fiction.
I think they understand it fine. They appear to be using the ARH TV show as their springboard for this movie, and despite its military backdrop, ARH was no doubt a scifi series.
 
in the animated movie it was revealed that cobra commander was a disfigured cobra la scientist,
 
Unfortunately it seems that Paramount doesn't understand GI Joe. They believe that it is a science fiction movie akin to X-Men with some grounding in reality while in truth it is a movie about a war with some science fiction.
I think they understand it fine. They appear to be using the ARH TV show as their springboard for this movie, and despite its military backdrop, ARH was no doubt a scifi series.

Again, yes and no. It has some grounding in science fiction but much of it was military. Actually reading some of the material, it's interesting to see some of the vehicles they used would actually be awesome and could be made IRL...

Their classifications and such are also very interesting because they follow the military branch.

I would rather have them follow the comic books than ARH, but unfortunately they won't.
 
Again, yes and no. It has some grounding in science fiction but much of it was military. Actually reading some of the material, it's interesting to see some of the vehicles they used would actually be awesome and could be made IRL...
I agree, it was a synthesis of the two, as this movie seems it will be. So many stories involve scifi type plot devices (including the way Serpentor was created, the Weather Dominator, Synthoids, the blob fro "The Germ" and everyone using handheld lasers in the 80's) have always firmly placed ARAH (the cartoon) into scifi territory for me. Its crossover with "Transformers" further solidified that in my mind even as a kid.
 
they've got Larry Hama on board as a consultant, so they're more likely to be following the comics than the cartoon - this is evidenced by the fact that Snakes is involved with Scarlett, not Duke and the Hard Master appears. and Larry apparently made them cut Snakes' solitary line.

the comics were more military realistic than the 'toon, but even so when it did stories featuring 'paranoia rays', GI Joe and Cobra launching space craft to battle in space and the cyborg Star Viper and the gentically engineered Serpentor, it had its share of SF elements.

and part of the reason for the 10 years from now approach is to distance it from the Bush foriegn policy.
 
Paramounts revision of G.I. Joe is RAPING MY CHILDHOOD! I WILL NEVER SEE THIS MOVIE! NOT EVEN ON DVD.

Sincerely,

Idiot.

Indeed, they are taking the work of art that is GI Joe and dumbing it down for the drooling unwashed masses. Dirty masses should wash themselves with their own drool.
 
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