I had a TV like that we had to hit it ti make it work untill we could afford a new one.
In the end we got fed up of having to get up so we Started to throw soft toys at it then send my 2 years old brother to go and collate the toys
Is my TV dead for good?
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In the end we got fed up of having to get up so we Started to throw soft toys at it then send my 2 years old brother to go and collate the toys
Nothing irritates me more than when people associate CRTs with low resolutions and dead technology, and plasma/LCD panels with "HDTV" and other silly standards that really mean nothing. "HD" means nothing more than saying "OH WELL IT'S IN RESOLUTIONS THAT COMPUTER MONITORS USING 'DEAD' CRT TECHNOLOGY HAVE BEEN CAPABLE OF FOR YEARS LOL". The only reason HDTV never caught on before was because of issues like "how do we store so much data?" and "how do we transmit so much data?".
Granted the CRT in this particular case is most certainly out of date, and it'd probably be better to purchase an LCD or possibly a plasma display to replace it, but honestly, a high end CRT or a good projector would make a far better display (better contrast, better colors, no BS fixed native resolution that can only be overridden with cheap scaling tricks that cause lag, etcetera). CRTs might be dead to mainstream consumers, but some of the higher end CRT HDTVs (and computer monitors, for gaming at least, but that's another matter) are still preferred by quite a few people.
That's not to mention that digital TV has nothing todo with HDTV. Most digital services are broadcast in standard TV resolutions. "HDTV" is still a fairly new (and lame, for something that's so UNrevolutionary, hey lets just crank the resolution up and act like it's the greatest thing since sliced bread) standard as far as adoption goes. It's not like you can avoid buying an HD-capable TV these days anyway (and you probably should buy one for future proofing), but you're not going to be screwed over when they stop analog TV transmissions if you don't have one.
Anyway, now for something a little more on-topic. The chances are the flyback (or the power supply, to most people) is probably the culprit. They're usually the first thing to wear out in a CRT in my experience. It's most likely that it can be replaced but in all honesty it's not worth repairing such an old display. Not because it's a CRT like some people suggest, but because it's just so old and outdated. I'd considering getting my beloved FD-Trinitron screens repaired, but not something that's 19 years old. You're much better off buying a new, flashy, overpriced (and overrated) panel and be done with it.
Just make sure you dispose of your CRT properly unless you intend on keeping it as an ornament. Don't just throw it in the trash, and don't smash it up. You wouldn't want it to implode in your proximity, and you wouldn't want to come into contact with the stuff in the phosphor layer, nor would you want to release it into the environment.
Granted the CRT in this particular case is most certainly out of date, and it'd probably be better to purchase an LCD or possibly a plasma display to replace it, but honestly, a high end CRT or a good projector would make a far better display (better contrast, better colors, no BS fixed native resolution that can only be overridden with cheap scaling tricks that cause lag, etcetera). CRTs might be dead to mainstream consumers, but some of the higher end CRT HDTVs (and computer monitors, for gaming at least, but that's another matter) are still preferred by quite a few people.
That's not to mention that digital TV has nothing todo with HDTV. Most digital services are broadcast in standard TV resolutions. "HDTV" is still a fairly new (and lame, for something that's so UNrevolutionary, hey lets just crank the resolution up and act like it's the greatest thing since sliced bread) standard as far as adoption goes. It's not like you can avoid buying an HD-capable TV these days anyway (and you probably should buy one for future proofing), but you're not going to be screwed over when they stop analog TV transmissions if you don't have one.
Anyway, now for something a little more on-topic. The chances are the flyback (or the power supply, to most people) is probably the culprit. They're usually the first thing to wear out in a CRT in my experience. It's most likely that it can be replaced but in all honesty it's not worth repairing such an old display. Not because it's a CRT like some people suggest, but because it's just so old and outdated. I'd considering getting my beloved FD-Trinitron screens repaired, but not something that's 19 years old. You're much better off buying a new, flashy, overpriced (and overrated) panel and be done with it.
Just make sure you dispose of your CRT properly unless you intend on keeping it as an ornament. Don't just throw it in the trash, and don't smash it up. You wouldn't want it to implode in your proximity, and you wouldn't want to come into contact with the stuff in the phosphor layer, nor would you want to release it into the environment.
^^ Like I stated earlier, get an estimate for the repair. 19-years old or not, there's something to be said about it being sentimental. Hell, I have an old Mazda I wish I'd spent the $2,300 on for a rebuilt transmission. Damn car was paid for and a blast to drive. I miss it.
And you are right about "HD this" and "HD that". Hell, ever since HD became available on cable, I've heard the "gotta have it now" crowd go nuts over it only to bitch that it either looks like shit or isn't offered on very many channels.
As far as getting a new unit, Best Buy offers $10 back to recycle an old TV. It's better than nothing and (we can assume) it goes to a proper disposal facility.
And you are right about "HD this" and "HD that". Hell, ever since HD became available on cable, I've heard the "gotta have it now" crowd go nuts over it only to bitch that it either looks like shit or isn't offered on very many channels.
As far as getting a new unit, Best Buy offers $10 back to recycle an old TV. It's better than nothing and (we can assume) it goes to a proper disposal facility.
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Low resolutions no, dead technology (at least on the consumer side which is the most important side), oh hell yes. It's dead as a doornail and your kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
No it's not. It's preferred by a very miniscule amount of people who are in the graphic design field who need to have their colors as precise as humanly possible which is a feat that is achieved best by CRT. There's isn't a high-end CRT HDTV even being manufactured any more so this notion that someone can just go down to their local Radio Shack and pick one up is absurd.
AFAIK, there was never an CRT HDTV that could handle 1080p so this point about CRT TV's being preferred over modern sets is ludicrous.
And this is Ludacris.
Now let's talk about it being completely dead, shall we?
I used to have a 40'" Sony Trinitron CRT HDTV (the biggest that Sony ever made) that had an absolutely beautiful picture and was far better than my Panasonic rear Projection CRT HDTV that I mentioned earlier that died last month.
The IC Circuit blew on the Sony (also happened on the Panny, too) and I called eight television repair shops, two of which had been around since the mid-1960's and they all told me the same thing: "Don't waste your money, it's a dead technology." So it would appear that even during a severe recession, those in the industry would tend to disagree with you about the viability of CRT.
You know what another big issue with CRT is? Size. You can only get so much size out out of CRT display. Back in the late 1990's when I sold electronics, the failure rate of CRT tubes 32" and above was 80% before they were even installed in a cabinet. That's not very cost effective. Not to mention the fact that my 40" Sony weighed in at 303 pounds and no that's not a typo. My 65" Mitsubishi comes in at around 30 pounds.
Back to the issue of resolution: as much as I loved my Sony and as beautiful as that picture was for it's time, at 720p and 1080i it didn't even come close to an LCD, Plasma or DLP at 1080p (when using a 1080p video source and that includes DVD's that are upconverted with a high-quality upconverter). The same goes for my Panny. CRT HDTV hit a dead end, period.
Not quite. Even older programs that weren't originally broadcast in HD or produced on an HD format look far superior on an HD Channel and on an HD display with the proper connections and settings. Just because you talk it down doesn't change that fact. I don't care what tricks they are using to make it look better, it looks way better.
And therin lies part of the problem with consumers today: they don't understand the difference between HD TV and Digital TV.
You forgot to mention that it will look a 1000 times better than any CRT along with all of those other adjectives.
A car and a TV are two entirely different animals.
There's another issue that's not brought up by all of you folks who are suggesting that the the OP actually invest even $100 into getting this set fixed: it's the issue of chasing good money after bad. This set is 19 years-old. This just the first thing to go wrong with it. Even if the power supply is the issue, just based on its age, it's more probable than not that it's going to require more and more work as more and more things are going to go wrong with it.
By far one of the most ignorant comments (which is continued below) about HD yet and obviously from someone who doesn't have HD in their home.
The reason it looks like shit for people is:
1.) They cheaped out and bought a generic low-end TV.
2.) They don't have their settings right on their video source (cable box) and/or their display (TV).
3.) Their using their damned coaxial (or RCA cables) cable coming out from the cable box into the TV instead of using HDMI, DVI or Component Cables.
4.) They are expecting every damned SD channel to look like an HD Channel.
Two and three are by far the biggest culprits.
My provider, Cox, currently offers 51 HD Channels and a ton of HD programming On Demand and they are adding more channels all the time. TimeWarner offers 59 HD Channels and Comcast just sucks at about 40 (Comcast decided to focus more on communication services which cost them 500,000 cable subscribers). The majority of the programming that I watch (and this is true for most viewers) is available on cable HD channels.
DirectTV offers even more at 130 channels of HD.
So I really don't know where you're coming up with this "isn't offered on many channels."
Has it achieved full penetration? No, not yet, but it's expanding exponentially.
Whoa folks sorry to be so late coming back. RL and all.
I have regular cable so I don't think the switch matters too much. Oh and regular cable looks better on my 19-yr-old SD TV than it does on my 3-yr-old HDTV (also a CRT).
Anyway, the answer to my question (dead for good?) would appear to be no. Though I did nothing about it, it is working again, oddly enough. Although I've noticed that it produces random popping sounds, like static electricity. Is it going to catch fire or something?
I have regular cable so I don't think the switch matters too much. Oh and regular cable looks better on my 19-yr-old SD TV than it does on my 3-yr-old HDTV (also a CRT).
Anyway, the answer to my question (dead for good?) would appear to be no. Though I did nothing about it, it is working again, oddly enough. Although I've noticed that it produces random popping sounds, like static electricity. Is it going to catch fire or something?
Sounds like your power supply.
You've obviously hooked something up wrong or with unideal calbes, then.
With the popping sounds, it sounds like your power supply went south. I'd call a few tv repair facilities and ask what they'd charge for the repair.
In 2001, I picked up a 7 year old RCA 31" CRT from a local repair shop. Someone had just gone out and replaced it when it broke. The repair shop sold it to me for the cost of the repair (which was something like 1/3 to 1/2 the price of new. While the repair wasn't quite right when I bought the set, the repair company fixed it and the set worked well for 2 years until it was dropped by a friend who was helping me load it onto a moving truck.
Even if it is broken, sometimes it's worth it to just fix it. At $150 I might be tempted to fix it even if I bought the HDTV and just put it in another room.
And for those who asked, since it's a System3, I'm guessing a 25" to 27" set.
In 2001, I picked up a 7 year old RCA 31" CRT from a local repair shop. Someone had just gone out and replaced it when it broke. The repair shop sold it to me for the cost of the repair (which was something like 1/3 to 1/2 the price of new. While the repair wasn't quite right when I bought the set, the repair company fixed it and the set worked well for 2 years until it was dropped by a friend who was helping me load it onto a moving truck.
Even if it is broken, sometimes it's worth it to just fix it. At $150 I might be tempted to fix it even if I bought the HDTV and just put it in another room.
And for those who asked, since it's a System3, I'm guessing a 25" to 27" set.
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